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Ryan Moore is a legendary player and the son of the most prolific foosball promoter ever. Now, Mary Moore has announced her retirement and Ryan is taking the reins. Here it is-straight from Ryan's mouth-what will happen next...
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[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The following is a presentation of Foosball Radio, Foosball Radio, on the Road.

[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we are live. Welcome back Foosball Radio on the road. Hey there, I'm Tom Robinson.

[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We've been hanging out all weekend here in Lexington, Kentucky for the 2024.

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say tornado World Champion.

[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, there we go. Now we got the order of the words right.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And what a weekend. This has been historic in so many ways.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm very lucky at this moment to be joined by none other than Brian Moore of the IFP.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we say that now? No, it's official. Well, I mean, technically, yes, sure.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. My organization won't be the IFP, but it's going to be rebranded, but yeah, exactly.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's nice, very cool. Well, you know, man, first of all, this tournament's always been traditionally a big one.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is the best. This is the top.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything that happened this weekend that you would say, hmm, which had done that,

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: or I mean, is there anything about the weekend that seemed better to you this year?

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Boy, and what do you mean just your over year? Yeah, your over year.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, you know, obviously the turnout plays a big role into how it feels.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And there was a lot of players in this place as packed. Yeah.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That generally instantly makes the vibe better.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody has more fun when there's more people coming out because we're all sharing the same coming here.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. And you see more people, it's like, I have more people to fill the same way I do.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool. Well, yeah, I made the decision to come here.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is hard to estimate at this point, but somewhere near 500 participants in this year's event.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting, it seems like things are growing again. Generally speaking about foesball, I was a sport. How do you feel about that?

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would say that there's the way I like to track it and this is complete destination.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no, you know, math actually behind this, but this is just looking around.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_03]: There's more tournaments now, and there's more people competing in each of those tournaments that I can remember.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So I would say over the last several decades, the tourism in itself and my opinion is more than it has been again.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_03]: This is an opinionated thing, but if you look at all the tournaments, they're all good size.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: All the promoters are doing well. And you know, this world is covering around the highest numbers it's been.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. You ask my mom with the highest number is because that's going to be my trigger point for, for my whenever ice start running things.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to do my damn best to try to grow it more than that. But I think she said 540 or 560, she couldn't quite remember that was the biggest world's no kidding.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Turned out and I think that was 18 or 19 so pretty.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was probably 2019, you're right.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Well, here's the thing. This weekend has been historic in so many ways.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say the highlight of the weekend, at least for a fan, will be Trevor Park.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to not be. Right. Yeah. It's an inspiration to sport.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, it's not like the guy just got lucky and scrapped his way through.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he beat. He started off beating Tony, arguably not even arguably the best singles player in the world.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Actually, of all time. Yep.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you got Tommy your he beats, which is the current American best singles player.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's that is your opinion or is that is well, that's the best.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a testicle. Okay. He's one more singles this year than even I had.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And I started off with strong, but he started he came in strong and in one really well there in the middle of the year.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And even all the way up to this point. Right.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you have to mean if you look around and then I mean, you could toss me in that mix too.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be wrong. You know, in the given day, I'll be any violence planted.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. Like we all know that. Oh, yeah.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So then you could say he could be arguably one of the best singles players.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, not having to think of it. But he beat the three best singles players in the game.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I already saw online a lot of people like, Oh, triple, triple, triple, triple, triple.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I've listened to it. If you have any morals and you think that it's okay to take something away from that guy after beating the three best players in the world.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah, back. Yeah, back. He actually earned it. He won it.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry you didn't have to be somebody twice. Get over those school. Thank you.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry it's it's a new generation, a new world.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: This experimentation that and I got to say, Kudos to your mom for taking the chance, right?

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. To say, OK, got to try this thing.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly. No, absolutely.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And new ideas are always going to be, yeah, it was great. But then, Ah, shit. I hated this.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. And here's a thing. You know,

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: not super opinionated as far as, you know, is championship format the best. Absolutely.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't really care if it is, or isn't, right? In my opinion, I think it's better than double elimination.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, OK, I'm OK with being on the side of people that say, well, you know, let's just say, expert and down.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I'm OK with double elimination for expert and down only because it's a two out of three.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a kind of a crap shoot. The two out three is a crap shoot. Yeah. So, yeah. I can understand the justification of double elimination, maybe for the lower ranks.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But when you get up to the big boys and it's three out of five, I'm sorry. The better players going to win that three out of five.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The cream usually rises to the top. Correct. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's how we get there.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So OK. We're going to talk about something big that happened last night. Everybody was very surprised by it.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not so surprised. But before we get to that, I'm going to utter the four letters, ITSF and they're a rival in this country this year. What does say you?

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, let's be real. I don't think there was a good effort on either side to join forces. I think both sides should have done a little better to figure out how to unite and create one.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of politics. There's a lot of plus and minus going on here. But I think in the day in America, what we have to do is focus on America. America comes first.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: This is just a way the game works. Sure. And so as long as ITSF is OK with that, which they should be, they should back anybody that is that passion.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course. Making their country great. They should do anything and everything to help with that. Because that's supposed to be the gold ITSF.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, ITSF is done a great job. Period. They've done a great job with what they're doing. And they have not had such a great influence on American football.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Part of that's because we've had our own thing. We've done our own thing.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And we're a little bit more close minded to the way that they run things and the way they run things is there are more about the promoters and ITSF in general is more about the sponsors.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And the politicians and I know there's maybe triggers on people, but I understand they care about the players. They care about the sponsors.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_03]: They care about the event. Right. And they care about how it looks. And I'm going to completely falcon because that is a very important part of the entire puzzle.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sure. I have to solve. Sure. Sure.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're saying that they don't care about the players. He's an absolute fallacy. That's terrible.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That will not fly on anything that I'm part of. Of course the players have to matter. Oh, yes.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Be a good mixture. Well, that seems like, well, okay, that would be an absolute negative for their own business, if it was said publicly.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they won't say it publicly. But behind closed doors and to many people, including myself, it's been said so wow.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It is what it is. Okay. It's okay though because they found success in their own way.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And they have absolutely helped through this ball overall. Oh, sure.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_03]: No way to take that away from them. And not only that, but the players like it. There's a lot of seniors here, a lot of juniors that are qualifying to go to the ITSF and represent USA.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not all for any kind of dictatorship. And I'm not all for anything that is going to potentially pit our country behind when we could just do it ourselves and make it better.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. Sure. Sure.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a good discovery with how the America and the ITSF interact if they want to be a part of what we're going to create. I'm all for it. Cool.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_03]: If they don't, they want us to do it their way or the highway. Bye bye.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would anybody at this stage mean the sport is is big. Yes, but the potential there for being much bigger.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But why would you work against that? The potential of being bigger.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Well, it's all I, you know, do it a lot of it's going to be power oriented. A lot of it's going to be politics again.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. You know, the thing is the ITSF has to draw a line in the sand.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If they say this is the way things have to be done or else you can't be part of the ITSF, which is where they're going.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy. And one country says, well, sorry, we're not doing that.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And if one country does it, then they open the door for another country to do it in another country. So they've got to figure that stuff situation. If you're out because they have their direction.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_03]: They have their way of thinking about things and you know what they decide.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll dictate their involvement in America. I'm all for having an ITSF be in a part of our tour.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe one one stop a year we don't want tournament either.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I would sanction all of them. If it's if it's a proper thing.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But it will not be an ITSF tournament. It would be a world-fruzball tour tournament.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And it will be ITSF sanctioned.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They will be a part of our tournament. And what is the difference? The difference is if we're an ITSF tournament,

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: we go by only their guidelines. We use only their software, which is good.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, also the world is coming along very nicely.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well for it.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. But the problem is as a business owner, I will not.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I open to speak freely here or you can see?

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no. What is this? We refer to this as raw, unedited.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, cool. So I will not have my balls held by somebody in business.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. If somebody's able to completely pull me around, it will not happen.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. I will have to make sure that I control my own pocketbook and the future of my family.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So what I'm getting at is say I go down this road and anybody can control me.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Say what? I go down this road and it's perfect.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they go, you know what Ryan? It's going to cost you $15,000 a sanction in your world series.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: You must do it this way and if you don't, you cannot use our software.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot do anything this. You cannot be sanctioned.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm sorry, but this is a possible outcome.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. Right now, it's not right now. It's not there motive right now.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But if it's a possibility, it could happen.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's been a lot of money on this. And it's great.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And let's say we don't work on our own software that we control and we build it.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And we make it as better than the world.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And we say if we go down that road, if they say, give me 10 grand or you don't get it.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And I have to go back to a dinosaur software when after I gave my player something amazing.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I just screwed myself. Or I go home sorry here.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. You win your all-hell ITS.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man. So yeah.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, maybe that may be a little strong.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I think well, we have to look at the potential for abuse.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. So yeah, there's when you've got one brain trust coming at you with their own ideas.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And they really are not interested in your ideas just to get you go along with those ideas.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Correct. And like I said, I'm all for the ITS.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not for the not care about the players part, but I'm all about what they've done.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I can graduate them.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. To tell me that was face.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's no, I mean, I think you're kind of naive.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't think they haven't helped in some way.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But at some point it becomes a business and I can't sure if they're wanting to be able to make more money

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: long-term that's way, way, way, way.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure it works. You create a better software. You create more value.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's been the money you take the risk.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And you hope that people support you.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But as a business owner, I cannot have somebody dictate my future.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I dictate my future.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's all kinds of opportunities for everyone.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Absolutely.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: If we all collaborate rather than consolidate.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Does that make sense?

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean, yeah.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a must. I mean, you know, working together can only help the sport for them out this sport now.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody wants to make their own pocket.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm all about that too though.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, my mom announced Mark Madderese is taking over the Louisiana State.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Historically, my mom and I have P is always my name.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Mark's great. I mean, what a great choice.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how I made money.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not like crazy money. But it made money.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So one of the things when I came on board is I truly,

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I truly want to empower the promoters.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's part of me that doesn't like the idea that I go into somebody's state and I run that.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Louisiana State opened when there's a Louisiana State promoter actively promoting in that state to grow the player base.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I capitalize off it.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not a fan of that.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So all state tournaments, I will facilitate tables to software help.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, you pay me for my service for bringing the world food's ball towards your stop.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And in return, you make that money.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I make some money.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_03]: We all make money.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And keep growing your player base.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what good networks do.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the only thing I want to have oversight on,

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, when it comes to these tournaments and thinking together is going to be,

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, when the schedule might be, this won't be perfect until 2026.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_03]: As long as everybody comes on board with me, I don't see how that can.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's just all proactive.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Right. Right.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But I want to have the schedule completed for the entire year by December 31st.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're talking like just the tournament schedule in general.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's tournament.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That was one of my questions tonight is, okay.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The calendar starting to get rather fill filled up in this country with regional, state and national,

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: national tour stops.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So is there a possibility or of a way we can all collaborate as promoters to say,

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: okay, I get this date. You get that date and then kind of go through and I hope,

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: want it out.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the thing is, like so here's the way I see it is,

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to offer anybody that runs a tournament.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I free spot on the roll for these wall tour. You don't pay me nothing.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you're on the roll for these wall tour,

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: you can probably even make some custom pop up banners that says, well,

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: who's ball tour and all melody nice.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, for free banners to help spice up the vibe.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean, and however, to be on the roll for these wall tour even for free,

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: there'll be some paid packages to where there's some remote promotions and there's more involvement.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously I can come bring the tables. It gets, you know, they'll be, they'll be like open source.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's exciting, yeah.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But in order to be on the roll for these wall tour,

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: you are going to have to work with the free.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. And so, for instance, there's a few situations last year where we had tournaments close to each other within a week or two weeks

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and they're going from the same player base, sometimes on the same weekend.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're pulling from the same player base. So yeah.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I don't have this entire suit made.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, no.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to basically want to have people work together.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like look, all right, you're in, I don't know,

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_03]: we'll just make something up.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You're in Tennessee, I'm making Tauki.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's spread our pork term.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a pork so that, you know, we're not on the same weekend.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make sense to us both on the same weekend.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe there's a mileage requirement.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they have to be ex-miles apart if they're going to be on the same weekend or within a one week.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: That makes sense.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're not pulling from the same player.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So East Coast West Coast is not a, not a, not a, not a issue.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: No, only it's only an issue also on sizes of tournaments.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So like, I don't want, you know, again, 25 is a testing ground for us.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want too many tournaments close to worlds in Vegas because that big key for growing

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_03]: in football is these, you know, I'm going to support everybody as much as I can.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Got it. But I absolutely have to have the major supported.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Like if people don't support my tournaments, they're going to be zero growth because

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: with money come in means money can go back out to grow the sport.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm doing that from the front side. So I'm going to stick mine that out there

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and hold that people support. And if they don't, then it, you know, it is what it's,

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_03]: but I just don't see a world on which people can't get on board with something that's going to be

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: freaking awesome.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So what we've been talking about for the last 15, 20 minutes here is essentially you are now.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is something that we're all faced with last night.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: We heard it during the, uh, the ceremony's last night.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Your mom got up and said, I'm retiring.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. Now hang on a second.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: How long have you been thinking about mom saying I'm retiring?

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, the thing is, as moms always had the dream of building something of a

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: tour, you know, coming up. She's, she started with just a little Kentucky stay

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_03]: a little five grander in the rock club in Kentucky.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. And, you know, she started building tournaments. She always

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: solved the vision of what a player wants from a football tournament.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And so she built, built, built and then her motive started changing to, I want to build

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: this for my son and for Billy and for Tony and the next generation to be able to

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: make money from it and get sponsorship and grow grow grow grow grow grow grow.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to grow this sport.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And then she started going to, you know, I want to be able to pass this off.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to create a legacy.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I want to pass this off to my family in some way, shape, perform,

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: and let them continue doing it.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, as time progresses, any time you do something for 33 years.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a long time.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a commitment I guess.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a beyond a commitment. It's a life.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's your entire life she put into it.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, life.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was, you know, we worked out a solid situation for the both of us and

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: we were able to pass the torch, so to speak.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: To me and, you know, I've given her for the last two years we've talked about this.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So I've been still in for about a couple of years on it.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been very, very busy in my own personal life and just, you know, not to be big

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: shy or arrogant, but I've been making a lot of money.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Good.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And so good.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It would not make sense for me to stop what I was doing.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Actually, would not make sense for my family and the future of my kids to stop making money

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: to grow food's bone.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So now my objective is I'm selling my companies.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I've already sold a few.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Really?

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I'm selling them.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still going to stay in my industry.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Can't have a sense for me.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm selling them.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm selling one.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I have another one that just got listed and I got a property that we, we liquidated assets

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: somewhere were keeping as a rental.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm I'm going to be lowering my workload at the same time still pursuing new states.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_03]: New opportunities.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no way I can stop that.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And I found a little piece of me that says, you know what?

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm okay giving up a part of my time for something that I've, that's truly made me who I am today,

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_03]: which is a baseball.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm okay with sacrificing a portion of it.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But absolutely is the business.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And my goal is that we all prosper.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, I absolutely will try to make money.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sorry.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not scared to say it.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm not going to sacrifice the future of my family.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's first of all.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the amazing thing.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Your family has been passionate.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously about the sport of football.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the same time, help the, the football community come together and do tournaments like this.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Amazing tournaments.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the same time, yes, make a living.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: What's wrong with that?

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's okay.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's perception.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I would love to be able to inspire people to look at the world a little differently

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and to look at the way money works a little differently.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I could say something very simple that I think could justify some people.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe then maybe not.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Some people hate him.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: People are successful.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's so bad.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so bad for them.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Because if you're not happy with somebody else's successful and learn from it and try to do that yourself.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, you're being yourself in a corner.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: You never get out of it.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So you should always be happy for somebody that's that you like and being successful.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if it's something you're also passionate about.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And so now obviously, um, we're, we're as I get down with that.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, at the end of the day, I'm just my goal is obviously to not make an infinite amount of money.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: The only way I'm okay, what's the safe?

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's say I want to make $10 million a year from running food's ball tournaments.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't that be nice?

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what would justify me making $10 million a year?

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I would say taking care of the players.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Food's ball would have to be a mainstream sport.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, of course.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So now it's like, okay, well, hell yeah.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: If I say it's a mainstream as no one know we get into a little bit of my territory when it comes to mainstream sports,

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: they're on networks.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They're covered.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to happen for an initially to me making $10 million a year.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not just black.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're the money is not going to be even in the realm of that.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But if I could make a, if I could get up to make it a couple hundred grand, that'd be amazing.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to require me to invest money.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So here's something, oh, this is what I was going to say on the lost train thought.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_03]: The amount of money that I'm investing in this tour.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I could pit an S, B 500 and be making $70,000 a year.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Let it sit.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So when people like always make it a bunch of money.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so wait, am I supposed to dedicate my entire energy, time and, or everything into something?

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And you get mad at me for making a 120.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, this is the kind of stuff people don't understand money.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And I invite them to to really look into it because it's just, you cannot be mad as money

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: for making money.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: When they pit all their money into it, their time, their energy.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a plain, simple truth is that if you and your family were not doing this, who would?

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, somebody would take it on there.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But they would have to start from zero.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Go to start from scratch.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, somebody would, especially here's the thing though.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody wanted to take it on when there was no tour.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And nobody has made the money.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody really knows that I funded the tour for a couple years because my mom went through dry spells.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_03]: A clear kidding.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the tour starts popping.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's more tournaments than ever and more people want to piece of the pie.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That's okay.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing wrong with that.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Follow the money.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody wants to get in and get a piece of pie.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No problem.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's all grow this sport together.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, people understand that she made zero and tell about 2016.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_03]: No kid.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_03]: She made zero.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So, wow.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: She made enough to survive and give us a decent life.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: My father, of course, arrived.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And she didn't start actually making money until 2016.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: No kid, in which she's when she paid me back and full.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And she was able to now carry it on and make a decent little living for the last few years.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And well, pandemic being put that aside.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's still growing.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think in a way, there's this little silver lining when it comes to the pandemic effect.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody had to stay home.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And when we came back out, we were a ravenous.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to play.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what's inspiring about this tournament.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: When you look at the numbers, this is matching post-pandemic numbers when there was a huge,

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll write the players.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So, yes, you're seeing football grow.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We're seeing a lot of players coming back.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, our average age is up there.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And the goal is to bring in new blood.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and it's a big topic.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We could go on for some time about that.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So, here's what I want to ask you.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is something we've discussed on AirFot a few times.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, what about in the near future, an actual pro tour?

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: In other words, pros or pro masters play.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say a five, a five, a meet or five tour, tour stop series.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they have a championship at the end of the year.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But only pros and pro masters, what do you think about something like that?

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think that somebody would be really eating and don't eat somebody to do that.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoever runs that tour is going to grow.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no doubt.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a law of Africa, it's not a law of Africa.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's basically the reason why my mother has been successful.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm a number of Scott.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I look into this stuff.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's because of the number of events.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I think it will say it's to pay money in a tour pocket.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the tour to make money.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_03]: If there was three divisions, we could not have a hundred thousand dollar tournament unless

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_03]: we raised the entry fees double.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_03]: That's just, yeah.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And less people come out because if a lot of people don't have a chance to win something,

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_03]: they don't want to come.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just, it's the reason why tornado and the previous administration quit.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And my mother took it over.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_03]: They were passing their losing asset onto my mom.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it didn't.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It took and broke even on for years until she transitioned into what it is today.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So there is a method to this.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't really get mad at people for having opinions.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure I'm actually really encouraged it.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's tough.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's very draining to somebody that has all the information to hear and have to explain it all

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: time.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think that I'm going to try to do a little bit better on explaining this stuff on the front side,

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: not to deal with health control on the backside.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But there is a reason why there's so many events.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And if we lessen them, we have a whole new can of worms we open.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm going to have, I don't have an direct answer as far as I'm keeping the tours.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I can say I'm not having more events and having less events.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't have an answer for you right this second.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Working on them on well, let me just start it.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're just tell you right now that I understand that my mother has been able to figure out how to make a successful tour.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And for me to negate what she does.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And really I can look at it mathematically speaking.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And easily I can throw all this into an exalt sheet and give you a little like a post to exalt sheet and say,

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Look, if we do less events based on the entries,

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: this is how much you would have to pay for per entry fee.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Or okay to have the same output.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a calculus that you've been using and of course this calculus.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_03]: There will be a still like a set of.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I signed the Petton Meem on signed the contract a week ago.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Seriously.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_03]: We've worked really hard on everything two months ago.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And when you talk to your family, you know, your words were word and yeah.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So we I knew she did but man there's there's so much exciting stuff in my mom knew that

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_03]: that I'm going to be able to really help the tour financially speaking.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And not only that, but then you know, I'll have a lot of good ideas and I'll be able to utilize my mom to assist me through the transition phase and okay.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Throughout the coin.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So she she felt like it was going to be great thing for Fuzball.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Great thing for more family.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, great thing for for all the players.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, it'll allow her to move on to do what she wants to do which is going to be to get a farm, get some horses.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Good for her.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So what she's going to do.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: She's going to see her kid or grandkids all the time.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Go to the boat.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: See when you dedicate your life to something a cause of purpose and and you get to the end of those.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Those days about purpose, you deserve a break.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, we've we've still talked quite a bit about her influence and Fuzball.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Still as a possibility if she wants with Fuzball clubs, you say yes.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And starting up, you know, helping on that division and still helping with the growth of the sport.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So you know, there's she could be involved as much as she wants or a little.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_03]: She wants, but she's she's ecstatic about the whole thing.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_03]: She's super happy.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I'm happy to be able to help her get to not even help her and she deserves everything to solidify.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, what she's creating.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So on the other side of things though, I got to got to ask you to admit that there may be a little bit of trepidation on her part that I'm, I'm going to miss this.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, come on man.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it don't me wrong.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of emotions that's going on with with this transition.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, again, she, she pros and cons everything.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_03]: She sure.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: She thinks the pros and her life and food balls that went in the cons by a mile.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Going with the better odds.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's going to be still around.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I told her part of it.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_03]: This is someone they'll put out there.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Part of the contract was that she gets free entities and free rent any one of my forever.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Forever.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, I'm a commuter star.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Beat all the women.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You're a generous son.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You're very generous.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's good.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a given man.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a given.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's very cool.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and I, I love to play with your mom or against your mom either one.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever happens.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That would be awesome.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: She's a fighter man.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, seriously.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So how is things going on with the family?

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You and you and Nevada have got two fantastic kids.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You've probably been very busy.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Are they expressing any interest even at this stage in what you do in Fusball?

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I mean, we go over five walk over the table.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We have it in our kitchen.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And if I walk over the kitchen.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: We have a kitchen.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: If it's outside of mind, right?

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: We had it there.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: We have it there for about the last year.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And if I walk over there and hit a ball, they come right up like,

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I would apply.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, you know, we play with them a little bit.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: They show interest in the regards to, of course, they want to do everything.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: They're expanding.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And they want to do what dad does.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Three and four.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Three and four.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We had a team on top of part man.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: We were like, oh, bam, thank you, man.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We're done.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: To and out.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: To and out.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_03]: We're super happy.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So, but yeah, they're so on a little bit of interest in it.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But we haven't really pushed it super hard on them.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: We never will.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, if they take to it and wish they will, God.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so fun.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, you know, we're going to Fusball Tour.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, yeah.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: They'll start screaming.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: We can go.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: What does Fusball Tour mean to them?

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It means the same thing as it does for us.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's friends.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's camarie.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fun.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do something different.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's in the energy's good.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_03]: There it doesn't matter for three or if you're 78, it doesn't matter.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a same thing.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: We're coming here to have fun.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This is May I see one of the more fun tournaments that I've been to and quite some time.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And the energy, man.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it really is.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just contagion.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Mively by Vage is everybody's trash talking.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Why not have some fun?

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Are we in for let's say a change in the rules when it comes to trash talking in the future?

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's that going to happen?

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Look, it's going to be a balancing act for me to figure out what is the best for sponsors

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: for making Fusball viral and for the players.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: If there's going to be a really tough A balancing act or B experimental phase.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And I have a lot of ideas on my God.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's, well, I'm just a great title.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I have, I can't.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I have two years of listen.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_03]: There's been several times of last two years that I was this close.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Me and mom were this close to making this happen.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: No kidding.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's always something that pushed back.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not going to get into why it was external usually.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But whenever I started thinking about taking over,

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't do anything half ass.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I get concerned with it because I'm always, if I do something,

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: it's the absolute damn best that I could ever make it possible.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm starting to flirt with taking on a, a leadership role for all the people that made me

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: who I am today and it's very, very important to me to make sure that I crush this.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So with that, infinite sleepless nights.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I sit in bed, stare at the ceiling for three to four hours, bro.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is two this day.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It happens to me.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very difficult for me to sleep.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_03]: So I get a little sleep.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But my brain is working.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, yeah.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a big calculation man like I said everything has pros and cons.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And every, every problem has a solution.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But every solution has another problem.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Then you have to go down the rabbit, hold up, solve that.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And keep going down until it's solved.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_03]: When you work your way back up the chain to that, to display and then you find a new one.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a trick, right?

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's trickery.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm good at this stuff.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very, I'm a visionary.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So I can envision things.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And I can foresee the issues.

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And I solve them.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But again, it creates more problems.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So so when I'm laying in bed,

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I have this amazing idea.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And I go, okay, what's the problem?

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's a problem.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going on these rabbit holes.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're doing the pros and cons right there in your head.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is more of problem solving.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm problem solving in my head because I'm like, okay, how do I?

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_03]: This is this is amazing.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But this is a problem from it.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_03]: How do I solve that?

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be able to have that.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But that could go this way or this way.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go down this route.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, I don't like this route.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That's where I want to go.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, shit.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, which way do you know that mean?

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So it is.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it's this is why you're not sleeping.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what?

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a big response.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Good.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's main.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's a lot of these players.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you look around the room dude.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_03]: For the smiling.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, having a great time with your laughing.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially this time in the weekend, right?

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's done.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Look.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Every single person in here is having a freaking great time.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is why it's so important to me to make this as good as it can possibly be.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And I truly, truly think that this will be the greatest air of football in the next decade.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I'm, I am.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And we are so happy to be hearing this and understanding that that is that's your goal, man.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That is, that is freaking cool.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So this can be an opportunity to really kind of get into it.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But there is now a quote unquote media around football.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Now there didn't used to be.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: There was Jim Sting was obviously within side.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The losing was doing the play by playing doing a fantastic job for all those years.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Now there's, well, modern football.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: There's, uh, football sports network.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_01]: There's, uh, football radio.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, stuff like this.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, ITSF has their own media.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they just career their own ideas.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you need here.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So just give me your wild eye vision for

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Football coverage, football media when it comes to what you're involved with.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's just call this a blanket statement.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like politics.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like drama.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I do.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't stand.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm, my wife hates it, but I am the most least emotional person when it comes to negativity.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You ever mean, I don't let it enter my space.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But if it's a problem, I solve it proactively.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And we move on and I move on at least.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So long story short is I don't, I don't really, I'm not going to give anybody an answer

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_03]: because I don't have one today on what happens.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But you'll always tell you, it's going to be whatever's best for sport.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And the way that I'm going to be doing things is different than anybody's ever done.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So there is not one person that I could choose that is correct right now for what I want.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_03]: All of them, any of them, everyone together separate they all going to have to mold into

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: what I want.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So the thing is, as I plan on, in this will be a help of the fuzures, I plan on creating a media team.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Because this is the biggest part of the growth of the fuzes ball.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm trying to dig a lage.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, social media is everything.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if you can't put the relay, your message onto a foam and if they can't spread

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: to the world, then you have no chance.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So everything like I said about what I'm going to do is going to try to bit fuzes ball

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_03]: in a position to go viral to be shareable and it's not going to be looking at

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_03]: the table surface.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be what we're looking at right now with the players.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_03]: People see this if they have to want to be with it.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_03]: the apartment.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, all the love, all the hay, all the emotions, all the crying, all

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: the sweat, all the first time world champions.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, dude, this is the stuff we capture.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't watch poker and you don't watch every single hand at the poker tour.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You watch the hand number, skip 10, 15 hands.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It only gives you the best, the best.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: That's all we need to do.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Same thing with golf.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: What is it?

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: What does it matter if somebody did a golf pass and went to a poolside on jet one?

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a shit.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And what matters is, is what do they feel?

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what people resonate to this.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I resonate.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's the emotional aspect of it.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Where in what we really truly get out of this is emotional satisfaction.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the fact that we can just get together and hang out with other people and have

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: a great, great time.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, a football match breaks out in hours.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, it'll also talk.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh that too.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But when it comes to, again, when it comes to media, you think about, okay, the PGA.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They use ABC, they use CBS, they use Fox, they use golf channel and they're on a lot of

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_01]: different locations as an entity.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you see, who's ball being represented that way like the PGA?

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there going to be a war?

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking, you know, which perhaps is an orange is right now.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're talking fantasy.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Tiva, you know what I mean?

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_03]: The thing is, it's like, it is not my goal to make who's balling with sport.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It is not my goal to make who's ball the major league baseball.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It is only my goal to make who's ball the best to can't be.

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And I will not promise the players anything more than that.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I will do the best I can't.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I am not going to promise you anything else.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_03]: That was the flaw of the ITSF and that's going to be long, or that's what's been

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_03]: kind of their downfall.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: When I first went to the ITSF, it was about making an Olympic sport and we all fed into

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_03]: it and I truly believe they believed it.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And now as time goes on, they go, this probably is not possible.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And now where do they go?

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_03]: They set the floor so high, they can't go anywhere but down.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So I can only say I want to share the love of the sport that we all have.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And to everybody in the world, whoever wants to come to it great.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't, no problem.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Same with my kids.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: If you want to play fantastic.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't, fantastic.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Good.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Good.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Good on you.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_03]: What else can I offer?

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You must play football.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't, you won't have a good time.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So come on.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's where we're so dead set sometimes against rethinking a problem.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We've had problems in the football industry if you want to call it that.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to this less than stellar professional outlook, if you're watching

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: it like a stream, this kind of thing is less than professional.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think certainly we're going to improve this stream and the content that comes

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: out on the stream.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, you know, looking around like a play area, it doesn't look as political athletic

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and professional.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, don't you're on a big portion of my money is going into many things that

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_03]: my mom and I have people can do, which is A.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll go ahead and say this.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a work in progress but it will happen.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It may not be January 1st.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have a semi-truck controller.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to have the space to be able to have all of the decoration and the supporting

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_03]: architecture for the room to be able to make it look.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Staying sound amazing.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's something else all those clothes that I did in this post this weekend.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Is I've contracted Bill Frederick with fan brands and fan brands, which is he

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_03]: owns his company.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We branded over 10 major league baseball and national hockey league teams.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're entire arenas really.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So he is now going to be the official branding agent of the World Foods Ball Tour.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm taking my vision.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_03]: How it is and it costs it a lot of money again.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm picking my neck out there.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope we'll support.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so the World Foods Ball Tour is going to be completely set up from the start

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_03]: with the absolute foundation of a good brand by having not just a logo.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The logo is almost meaningless.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's right.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_03]: What is the field?

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_03]: How does the tournament room look?

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So I've have shared with him my vision that he knows are only feet.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I've shared with him my vision of what I see a final area looking like.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_03]: What I see a merchandise booth looking like.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_03]: What I see the entire tour looking like, what you see when you come up to the hotel.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_03]: What you see when you walk into the room.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_03]: What you see when you land at the airport.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I've shared with him my vision.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And now we're going to work together to put it together.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And I could not release it here because we were about a month into this.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's about a three to four month discovery.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can always call us back.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, we're going to see it before January 1st, but as we sit right now,

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_03]: it is not done and I'm not rushing it.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So this is you look at my fan brands with a Z fan brands.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You can look at the market.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_03]: They designed stadium.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They are a marketing specialist.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was just, but like this I was just emailing him when I got here.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, hey man, I'm at the US open right now.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll make sure to get back to you as soon as I can because he was branding them.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_03]: No doubt.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So dude, that's, but now we're talking serious.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, listen, I don't plan on playing.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't plan on coming into this thing lightly.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, all I can do is stick my neck out there.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Give it all I've got.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And I know a lot of these players are going to support because they're going to see

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: the love that I picked towards us.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exciting.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So exciting.

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_03]: At some point I'm going to make money and I really hope I don't get demonized

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_03]: for it, but if I do, I got to fix them.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sorry, man.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sorry.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sorry.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard, I'm not hurt in my family.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You're not a business.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: All this stuff that you hear all the big, running this stuff, I think I hope that most

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_03]: of it goes away because I can set up plans.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you can all have a plan on solving it on the front side.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the fact of the matter is you're not just putting your fingers in your ears

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and ignoring.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You're saying, okay, I want to address your issues.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I actually already talked to, you know, it's funny.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_03]: My family talked about it that in Jennifer.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, you know, even at first, everybody supports me and everything's perfect

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and it comes down great.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_03]: If we have a lot of people that are still opinionated, great, you know, it's fine.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's have a meltdown Monday and we'll do a podcast with whoever has a very strong opinion

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_03]: against it.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk it out.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But look at all the information out there so that when we have a conversation, it

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: can be proactive.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not going to say that I'm always right.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not always right at all.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I tried it.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I think of every single variable before I make a decision, okay?

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And if there's been times that I've watched this, you know, these, you know, topics

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_03]: play out on like inside foods or whatever and there's been times that people that

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_03]: oppose my theory come out with very, very real good information that has slated me into

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: slightly more of a gray middle area where I go, you know what that does make a lot of

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_03]: sense.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't really think about that way.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just the way we are, right?

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_03]: We get like I told a lot of people a championship format.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, again, here's my my theory overall is it's usually the loud, my

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_03]: nori and they're the whoever opposes anything that's been a lot.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very good turn by the way the loud money.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And what we see here is the vast majority.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But now here's the thing, here's what I say about championship format.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I truly believe if it would have been explained thoroughly, all of the pros, all of

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: the cops, every single good thing that it does and every single negative thing.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That so many more people would have had a little bit more of an open mind to it.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're not afraid of them office away, but they wouldn't be so strongly against it.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because change is tough.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But well, tough a lot of people.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But someone had to take the chance and make the experiment.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, right.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And so what I plan to do with big changes, I plan to explain why I'm making that change.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And here are the pros.

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And here are the cons.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's let it try it and then we'll go from there.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You know?

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Does anything improve or get better without that?

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, no.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over and

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_03]: in a different outcome.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So obviously if we ever think, I mean, I mean, food is, I mean, food is balls growing right now

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_03]: and you could say why?

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You can try to figure out why you could say the economy has been good.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're still seeing a economy in from 16 to 20 was getting fired up.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of people make a lot of money and there's been a lot of money saved from that.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the economy is still doing good.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm not a economist.

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure sure.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But at the end of the day, people are able to justify coming to a tournament and relaxing, spending

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_03]: the money on it because it gets them away from everything they're doing.

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a food's well-vacated.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's an all-inclusive vacation.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, fun.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, long story short is, is it still growing?

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_03]: People like what they get when they come here.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's it.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's what it is.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a value thing.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So, if you come to the tournament, you're like, well that wasn't worth a thousand bucks.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That means the tournament didn't give you the value that you needed.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And everybody's going to have their own opinion on that.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But what this is saying by seeing football tournaments grow is the value of a football tournament.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And being with the community and having fun, it's worth every penny that we spend.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing is that the human beings as long as they can see the value have no problem

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and supporting something like that.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And for instance, like you were talking about was these lessons.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, many people, I say 150 bucks an hour and they go, oh God.

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_03]: What are you?

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But we're all you're going to get that though.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, but again, you know, coming from the person doing them, it's not an hour of my time.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's about two or a quarter.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Because there's an intake.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_03]: There's an initiation scheduling.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Then there's a, what would you like?

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And let me do some research on the player figure out what rank they are.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I have to figure out all the parameters to be able to actually help this person rise.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we actually get into that one hour meeting.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: The actual meal.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So we have any of the ones that want our meeting at Mordi.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm already 30 to 45 minutes in.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So you really got to do a lot of research on that.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_03]: That's absolutely the one hour meeting is never one hour.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's always longer than an hour because I'm not going to.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, 60 minutes were done.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's more like let's make sure you got the value from this.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So we can move on to either a the next meeting or we can finalize this.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we have the post meeting recap.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I recap what we talked about.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes with people that do like the long term plans,

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_03]: like the game changers need some follow-up.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, well, I do this for both of us because I have a lot of people under me now.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I send them a text or like, you know, message is says, this is what we covered.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is what you need to do.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's it.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So the next time I come there and ask, what do you have that go?

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_03]: How's it working out?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's that's an obvious one.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: That's also worth two hours to two and a quarter.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So now my time get cut down in half.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I mean, you know, at the end of the day dude,

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to sell myself short.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's worth every freaking penny.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why I know it is is because I see real change in one hour.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Instant change in one hour with most people.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is, you just started doing this what like three months ago?

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's been shut down for about two really.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So I opened it and I got overloaded.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I said, I already got to shut this down.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And respond to new expected.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I knew it was going to be a hit because the way that it was all set up.

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, if I would buy it to it, if I would say an amateur or what?

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't I?

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_03]: The value's there.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And it truly is like a lot of people, you know,

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_03]: you spend 150 bucks for one lesson.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You re-learn everything you may be done wrong.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And how much you spend at a food's ball turn of 1000?

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So when you get a game changer for me, which is four lessons for 600 bucks.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's less than a full food's ball turn of me.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And you have, I mean, again, I don't want to be ego-tissable whatever.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_03]: One of the best players in the world giving you real advice over four hours.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And gradually making you adjust into a better player.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the value's just there.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's astounding, man.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not even just me.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I plan on releasing this to where people and, you know, as long as it players are okay with it.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_03]: They could do one with Tommy or do one for an immune system.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, see now there.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, now you're talking because you can choose your, show us a favorite pro master to work with.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, some people's game, I mean, I'm very, what you call it, a universal style of play.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So I do resonate with most players, but there's some players that would resonate more, say, Tom, you or

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_03]: style, Tony style, or, you know, more structures.

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and I mean, like there's just a lot of differences.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think it's great to offer that to the players.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's over and over again.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We hear when people are first coming up the ranks and they're, you know, making, making strides.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They're watching videos.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's the way it was done in the past with YouTube and of course, with the inside

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Foods, but they would watch much video and get better and try to emulate what they're seeing on the table.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But now, you take it into the next level.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But they've brought forward really not that much money.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You get an opportunity to actually work directly and ask questions to somebody who does perform at, well, the top level.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's amazing.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's so cool.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We have, you know, people that are beginners all the way to approach.

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_03]: No kidding.

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have given a lesson to an eight year old because the father bought it.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_03]: There's wow on one to I believe, 83, 83.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's been awesome.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's been really cool and I treat, you know, I'm all about value and money right.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So part of the deal is that you also would, would play with them.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You chose one person that you're going to play with.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Who are you playing with?

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Rob Cotler.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Rob Cotler.

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he's a rookie from North Carolina.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a, I met him yesterday, super nice.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of our patrons at the Fusball Radio and he's a great guy now.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So we talked a long time.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what we actually have, he's still had, you know, he did a game changer so he still had a couple lessons I left actually.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We did one here and a lot of that lesson was talking about what we do as a team.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And how was a team we're going to try to prevail.

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And uh, yeah, absolutely.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_03]: When we get there, that's part of, that was part of winning.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't just, you know, you'd have played with me.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to open doubles and handicap doubles.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to strategize on this.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go through the tournament, looking to see what we're going to try to do.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to strategize based on what we're playing.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But we're going to do.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to give this best strawberry camp.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that means we can't get it so cool.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, and also on top of that, that you got 500 bucks to go pay towards his trips on five sports.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sponsoring them.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know how that means instead of them spots are in means.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, no, super cool man.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's a lot of great people that fought into this.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure on the people who was hoping to win it.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, obviously I wish everybody could have won the rods at great guides here.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's super stoked for him, you know.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's really excited, man.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, he mentioned something like that to me.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but when we were talking to Mike, that is really freaking cool man.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, he's got to be super appreciative and he's going to have a lot of fun.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dot-t-t-a-t.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So, here's my question.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is something that kind of vague at times.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But it can also be very specific.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_01]: In five years, where do you want to be in football?

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Five years will be past every single phase that I have developed really.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So, in five years, five years is a little too far for me because I'm,

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a three year plan.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Really?

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And three, you know, the more I progress them business, you know,

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_03]: when I first started, I used to have a monthly, sometimes even a weekly plan.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I've learned that that is just how far you envision ahead and,

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and, you know, going three months out a year out, it ends up being better overall

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_03]: because you, you know, you don't be yourself up with your mind and you set realistic expectations.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And the last element to release every idea I got from the very beginning and all of them

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: just be half-assed.

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I want every single idea I got to be released slowly over time, be drip fed and perfected

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_03]: or can't basically based on how it works out.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: We do it all.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't really watch over at all.

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So, I got a lot of ideas.

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_03]: People are in a love 95% of them.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's going to be a few that people are going to have to take the good with the bad.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But, sure, my opinion some of these ideas that I have are going to be for the better of the sport.

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe a little bit weird for the players.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Better to support something like, and they'll be controversial.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and I don't really want to say, I'm right this second, the controversial ones.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, I really want to know them because they need to be fully thought through before I absolutely release it.

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm wondering, again, this topic that comes up a lot for us on Fuzball Radio Fuzball

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: is Leeds.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Leeds within the United States, you've got so many disparate clubs that are doing their D-LiPs and this kind of thing.

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But they're totally disconnected from the most part.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Is there a plan at all to bring all those disparate parts together?

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm thinking halfway through 2026.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_03]: 26.

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And if they halfway through to give me a little time, I'd love to say January 1st, 2026.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But the biggest proponent to the future Fuzball is going to be the software.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's huge.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, and this is I really do want to own the software, not the 100% of it.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I want to be a partner in it because it's invested interest into the future.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So if I don't own a piece of the software, the same thing that Coral could do to me, they could.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, so I really want to have invest interest into the software.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So that it coincides with the World Fuzball tour.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is a software as you know, it's very expensive to create.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you might as F has hundreds of thousands into the world.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_03]: If you added up the amount of time the modern hands, of course they have a software engineer's doing it themselves.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh sure, but if you paid them for their time, they probably got a hundred or two in there.

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, if you paid them for their time.

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's money software.

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, it was all done by all these screws and if you would have paid him, it would have been worth a hundred or two in that.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, so it's a tricky situation because if it isn't worth building a half million dollar software for just Fuzball, probably not.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But what's really cool, which is my idea, and also a modern Fuzball idea and I believe also, Coral's idea is to be able to offer this to you.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_03]: To all terms, to a difficult place to all sports. Okay, across the entire world or the United States. Yeah, now we're talking about business plan that I'm all for.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I wouldn't even mind investing capital into the software can become just a partner of it, but it is so influential for long term. We're talking about leagues.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to be doing leagues on paper sheets like we did back 12 years ago.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly right. Yeah, no, this is all going to be digital.

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It's all going to be interlinked. Everyone's going to be able to see what's happening in every single league too.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's due to the Congress, this is an hour conversation.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I have two years of thinking behind.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a big deal and it's one of the reasons why Fuzball grew so much back in the day. Yes.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So absolutely, you know, having feeder programs. You know another thing too, which is big to me, is that we need to have some sort of advertising on every single table and every single bar for the tour.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, they didn't be able to scan a QR code on the side of the table that says where the closest league is or how to get in touch with the local player base.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so simple. It's been attempted though.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the past like you go to a certain side, you can find out what's happening. Let's say in Clifton Park, New York, you know, next weekend.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But you should scan this thing and it says the contact when it's played the closest place.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You should be able to click one button and see the rules. You should be able to, I mean, there should be a high video the second week.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You can just scan it. You see something amazing that just makes your eyes go holy crap. I can't believe there's no world Fuzball tour. That's crazy.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. You know, this is beyond just, you know, this is, this is, there's a science to this.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And it all, every good idea in this day and age is around the software.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I got you. I got you. Every good idea. You know, I'm a, I'm a, I like, I set high expectations myself and every billion dollar idea can think of requires an insane amount of software.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_03]: No kidding. Yeah, and it's beyond what I can do. I don't do software.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so finding a team around. Yeah, this way, you got to hire somebody else to do it.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that takes capital. Yeah. That's risk capital. Of course. There's no guaranteed. It'll be successful. And there's no guarantee because I'm not a software engineer.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't oversee every single crate of it. Yep. There's no guarantee that we could get a hundred to a thousand dollars into this and then they go.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_03]: We went down the wrong path. We got to redo this entire thing. It's going to cost you another hundred to a hundred.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So far as very finicky. I know it's, it's definitely evolving over the years. I'm a software engineer. So you know, obviously I do not think I'm an expert. I just know what I talk to people about. Yeah.

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a risky business. It's, it's, it's needed desperately. Yeah. I mean, even if, you know, I still remember years ago when I was on a bowling league, I could go in register as a, as a local boller and do my thing every Tuesday night or whatever.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I would be compared against everybody else across the country who are doing the same thing. Yeah, absolutely. Why couldn't we do that for Fusball? Yeah. No, it's not, it's been done. Yeah.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's got to be organized and it's got to be brought to the modern age. Yeah. And, you know, it takes one really solid person on top to relay the message down the chain.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And every single link along down the chain has to be solid in order for it to get down to the players. Gotcha. So, you know, it takes a captain to oversee it all. Yeah.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it takes a crew of people that are like minded that can carry it out for the vision that actually happened. And I know this because I run companies across the United States. Right. Right. Right.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So I have main people that overseen, may people that overseen the managers that overseen the employees. Yeah. And those employees need to have the same values that I do.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_03]: We have an issue. Yeah. I have to massage this all the time. Oh, no, I hear that and it's a fine line to walk to. Yeah. And it's not only is a fine, it's, it is a, it's a consistent job to do. You know, just keep going.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And I admire you for your 42 and wanting to do this and your whole family for that matter for what your family is brought to the sport. It's extraordinary.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is coming from an outsider, you know, someone that really got reintroduced to the sport roughly what 11, 12 years ago.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And they have discovered that, oh my god, this, this is, this is the biggest there, this is great. And it's huge that what you people have done. You and your, your family.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my mom's been the harder to all that. Yeah. I mean, she's, she's built nice that this in speech and I also have it coming out in a video where we're doing a release video hopefully next couple days.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool. But yeah, man, she's been, you know, running the tour, but she's, she's, she's really been the harder to the tour.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And she's done more than just run tournaments, man. She really has built a community in the family.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. She's built a family of people and what, I mean, even if you completely despise my mom, I would guarantee you that there's a small piece of every single person that plays this game, that thinks her.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Even if you despise her, I would say 97 or 8% of the players love her. Oh, yeah. So no problem.

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, that's, you know, my mom, it's hard for her to see this because again, we're humans. We always focus on the negatives instead of the positives and just human nature.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It does get more press. Yeah. I didn't, you know, everybody's idea that everybody ever has the first thing you think about is why we're a fail.

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yes. That is why we're a success. You know, so it's just a natural human response.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yes. There we have, we've had a lot of reason to be negative about just life and gentle because of COVID on the pandemic.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's a renewed sense that there is positivity now in the world and it's coming back and I think,

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: we're just a bit more demanding and this is the one thing that truly does. And some way, link every single person regardless of what a good view which is the hot topic.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll listen to what you think. There's somewhat odd, can connect with many, many people here, even if I, my views are completely different than yes.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: We've been to the point where we just don't even talk to each other. No, I don't do politics unless, you know, this is a, this is a, this is a, I don't mind having actually had a really good conversation with

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: the public and a lot of find them, I'm proud to say that. Sure. I had a very proactive conversation with him.

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And we had a lot of common ground, but the person was very open minded.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: There is a lot of that. And there'd be a lot, there's a lot of easier to have these discussions.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, we can't live in our own bubble. We just can't do it. Oh, you have to, you have to feel, you have to be uncomfortable and really at least someone think about my idea.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But just like with Coral, I kiss out. Yes. For me, I, I do the first second I thought about using a mind, just like no. And then I went okay, Ryan, it is a good software.

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go down the road, I'm using that. And I went down the road and I fought along in hard and I just don't believe it's going to be the best for both the world,

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: and I can come to because you gave it the opportunity. Now, you know, I can say this. That's where I'm at right now. Yeah.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_03]: If I, yes, I can actually make if we can come to some sort of agreement that checks all the boxes. And I mean, it has to check on roll 20 30 year contracts.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, saying you can't do XYZ. It's not off the table. It's really not. It's not. I'm open. But again, if there's demands being made by buying.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, this is no time for a, especially as for like, the food's ball to be dictated to. Yeah. I mean, this is not a time. And the thing is, is by worlds and next year, I plan on providing a experience that has never been done before.

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: The ITSF has the best looking tournaments hands down. Oh yeah, not even clubs. But you know what they lack? Showmanship.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Me, that's in a little bit of trash talking here there. Oh no. I mean, they have no show. No show. Yes.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The finals is there. They're watching the layout time at there's thousand players there. It hats off to Leo and that's all to everyone involved. ITSF, whoever, you know, all the people involved. That's fantastic. Yep. We love seeing growth. It's very, it's very, it's very inspirational. That's our experience.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But I watched the finals of Tony and this new kid, he's like 56. And I don't even know who he was. We've told him it's definitely. No, what's different? No, this is some, this is a German player. Oh, okay.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen before. Okay. And he's in the finals and they're both just at the table. They're waiting for two reps.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And the reps get there and they're like, you know, they're scrambling. And they do this and then Tony and their Mike, you ready to play? They're like, yeah, go ahead, go play.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they start playing their match and then it's over. They people clap and stuff. That's okay. And they, you know, day later, later that day, whatever.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm on the podium. It's a graduate. It's five, five, five years or fucking metal.

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry. But that is, there's no showmanship there. You know what it should be? There should be. Oh, I don't know if I'll say everything.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be absolutely freaking amazing. Okay.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_03]: The final is going to be what is going to be able to be viral in its, what's going to create the emotions that we've never seen before in Fusball.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. It's next year. Yeah. Okay. It's going to be what it should have been a long time ago.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to need a lot of capital to create. Right. Right.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So let me go back to the TKO earlier this year. And what happened between you and Tommy on the table, when you were playing in singles,

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think open singles finals and you're battling back and forth and neither one of you could score on the three row.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You're blocking each other pretty good. And then you started passing your surpassing the ball back to your own tune rod and crushed four four shots from the two rod to win the match.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And what? Well, actually sadly I don't remember that because I've done that so many times now. I can't remember that.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man. But but it was like everybody was gathered around just about everybody in the place with there and just going,

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, did you just see that and the emotion in the room because everybody was seeing it together.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And there was a few players in the background, but mostly everybody gathered around and craning to see.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the atmosphere that during that particular final of that weekend was electric man.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course you won, but at the same time, there are people rooting for both sides.

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Right. You know? And it got a little noisy at one point. So how do you feel about that?

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, when the winds are wet and how you get to that finish line.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean about the noise about people, you know, you guys have never seen anything we're put about to happen.

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. There's some things that I'm confident about and this is one of them.

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. There's it's going to be at worlds. And 2025. I'm hoping it's going to my vision is going to come to fruition in the finals.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But it may be 2026 when it truly gets, it's been a year since every year.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. I'm hoping that by 2025, I can have all the puzzle pieces put together. There's a lot of factors.

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: One is where is world next here?

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, big question asked that question.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, asking the question in a sense anyway, instead of won't be at this hotel, which is not a guarantee.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: However, it is my objective is to try to get into a bigger room.

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We need more tables. There's 500 players here. I'm hoping that I'm hoping that the players that will come out and support this world for what about to create.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, so now it's sport for the world to support the players, support their local parameters, our players.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: This final is going to be absolutely amazing and we need more tables.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. No kidding. However, now that I do want to make this clear,

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: there was only a lack of tables a few times. If we look, we're Sunday right now. What's happening right over there?

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They're turned down. They're tearing tables down. Yep. We are wrapping this tournament up on Sunday.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: On time, the staff has done absolutely amazing. And mind you, it finishes all Monday.

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Right. And we're rolling tables down on Sunday.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. So the tournament has ran very well.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. It was very, very, very, very, very, very.

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_03]: This says anything differently. They're just speaking from personal experience and that speaking as a whole.

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: If you were signed up today as a player or, I mean, the entire weekend as a player, you have to, you know, the phone number app where you could get called up to a table. It worked beautifully.

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: As far as I'm concerned, man, that made it so easy to do. Yeah. So easy.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And so what I'm getting at though is I play on having more players.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And I want to have more tables for that reason. Also, I have a lot of really cool ideas that are going to need more tables.

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So interesting. Interesting.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Is ballet, done a most selling tornado by any chance?

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I tried it with my foot. I just thought it was a hunch, you know, maybe it liked it.

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You were another right path. I offered it. They said no.

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Not that I could actually buy them by myself, but I could easily pull together the insurance to do it.

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. No, it's, um, it wasn't the past though that manufacturers usually ram the tournaments.

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So now that's no longer the case, really. No, because they lost money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So what were they doing wrong?

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, really a question is what were they doing right?

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And, and the only thing that you could say they were doing right was they had the amount of tables.

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be wrong. I'm not going to, okay, I don't want to be so one-sided.

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_03]: The things that I remember what they were doing right back in the day is they had a huge stance in the finals.

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: There were some of the cool middle of the literature. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, hundreds and hundreds of people were in for the finals.

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I sow to this day, remember Johnny Horton, Rob Morris playing the singles final, Johnny and his damn disco shirt.

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you around the place? I've got to see sure that.

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: God, it was so cool. You know, so they had a grand finals.

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's also a football as banging back in clip, you know, when I was a little kid 20, 30 years ago. Sure.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they did good by shutting down the tour or the tournament for the finals.

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, this is pre-sauperage. They didn't best think of what they got. Right.

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: They were showmen. They actually created a really good party experience.

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But that was also a fall because they were spending so much damn money. The higher up, so it's been so much money.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they were $1,000 multi-thousand-dollar tabs every night.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Real just buying everyone drinks, which great. Sure. You know, there's just a lot of blown money and their big company and they were doing great.

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So sure they had that flexibility, but when the new owner pulled it or took it over and he had to turn them into losing money.

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And they tried to justify, well, it builds the brand and he made it on the backside. He just like, ah, get this out of here.

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they turned it over to mom. Really interesting. Yeah, she did a couple years in Dallas and I don't know if it was because she took it over or what?

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But the Dallas player stopped supporting her. I mean, there was one point where there was like 25 and 30 players in Dallas that came out to the world championship.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Really? My mom said, well, what's the point?

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And so she moved to Kentucky and she moved to Kentucky because historically the Kentucky state or the tournament when the tournament went back to them.

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It was one of the best tournaments of the year. Right. Everybody from around the world was going to come and do everything.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So she moved to here because she knew there was something that something with that. She didn't quite know why but she wanted to get closer to people driving.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why geographically speaking, this is one of the absolute best places for a world championships is because of how many players were drive up.

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. And the level is the second biggest stripping corridor in the United States and it's home to 60% of the population within a 12 hour drive. No kidding.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And when you think about football population, you go up to 75%. Oh yeah. So you're within 75% of the population within 12 hours. And let's think about it. We got to make this thing afford for people getting a car drive 12 hours here and back in age.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. So you know, that is a big key to this. So for me, I want to have a very grand place but it needs to be somewhat in the vicinity of Kentucky.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I can talk right. But I don't want to go further than like three hours anyway. Can I ask yourself a question?

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Will you have.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: For after hours after the tournament's over, there's going to be a special room to go into where everybody can.

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I use the term unwind?

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's feel like this last night. That was a part of a party and we haven't so much fun.

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it the party in 108?

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what was already a little bit to see. You know, I joined the victory, you know, Tommy and a couple of guys and they just said come with me and I went in there and I walked in and I don't know after we walked in like 10 more people.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And there and I was like, oh God. It was fun. I knew I was just like, we're talking to hotel room now. Yes, we're talking to a dead hotel room.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's 30 people in there and we're I'm just like, we are so screwed. Cere's coming. If this was my tournament, I couldn't condone.

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I was living it up while I can. But it was a very good indicator to me to go, you know what? I need to set these kind of boundaries. Well they listen maybe not.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But have a location for this. You know the thing is, I mean, let's just be real. This entire side of the room is open all night long. Oh yeah there is an location for it.

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but if we could if we could all airs have a minute and then.

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you know, but yeah, so absolutely the goal would be to have a place for that so that we don't want to be ran out of host hotels. Of course.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So food ball players or food ball players. You know, I can only set number two in a way. It's never ever grown to change. Yeah exactly and I don't plan on changing people. You know, I mean, I plan on you know there's

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I guess that I might dictate our man live it up but I've been asked that maybe we don't do things.

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: What's that called? That's, you know, got your name or whatever, you know, whatever.

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But long story short is yes, I'm going to try to provide it a very fun energizing entertaining cool music space.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing, did you ever go to Dallas back in the day? How long have you been in? Well, so I returned to the sport in 2011.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what about for that? So I was playing in the 70s, but I wasn't touring.

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so before 2011 at the World Championships, this was really cool. This is something else they did right.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, down in Dallas and I remember what the hotel was. Huge, huge hotel super grand super nice.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They had a bar that stayed open until like five a.m.

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and it was a bar in the hotel.

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, dude, it was some of the best damn times of my life.

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, they had, I plan on trying to do this the absolute best camera. They had black light tables black right men black.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like everybody's drinking party and haven't fun. You know, I was too young to drink at the time, but I was still in there.

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, we played so four, five in the morning.

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_03]: All the top guys were there drinking, having fun playing two ball roller ball talking shit.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's really that kind of activity after tournament is done is really only second to walking out with a number one trophy.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely. You know, the experience. But you know, my, my real goal is I, there's we are such a mixed basket of people and so my goal is to try to give multiple experiences in this same tournament.

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And you, as a person, can choose what makes sense to do and what doesn't make sense to do. There you go.

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of some of the entertainment I plan on trying is going to be somewhat not even food bar related.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and you know, we're in Kentucky for instance, this just, you know, I'm not saying I'm a dude, but you know how many people will be half fun with a bourbon tour.

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, and we sell out 10, 20 spots and they go do a bourbon tour.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe have a couple of sponsors for the tournament.

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's something that they can literally buy from our website. We facilitate it. We talk to the people that come and pick you up.

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we experience. So it's opening the horizon of what going to a food ball tournament is now for some people. I mean, I know this was funny. We're joking around this. Maybe we need bingo at this point this for.

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But hold on a second. I think there's a underhanded insults in there.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you notice how that's going to do that?

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But no, that's a joke when I do in that. But there's a lot of these ideas that I have again. And I don't like necessarily say them all because sometimes they could happen.

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they can't. They're right to paint on the sides of the hotel ball room, depending on the city and the state we're in depending on the software depending on God, do so many things.

[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it takes so many things to make some of this stuff happen. And so I don't like speaking out to Brian or to pinpoint things too much.

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sure sure.

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sort of solidify a lot of these things. All will be direct.

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, clearly you're just in the formulation stage of your plans.

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. And we signed.

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And so week it's a good because the drive yet on the paper. So yeah, no, it's exciting though. And I'm so glad we got a chance to actually chat about it because I mean clearly it means a lot to you.

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And how is this going to affect you as a player? I mean, are you going to continue to compete?

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's the magic question. So, um, this will sad and a lot of bit players. I'm not retiring. You're not retiring.

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_03]: No, but this will also make, um, little sad and a lot of spectators. I at least initially until maybe maybe for a long time.

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. We'll be playing all of the regionals, but I won't play the majors really. And the reason for this is what I want to create will require perfection. Yeah.

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And I do not want my name associated to anything less than close to perfection. Got it. So it's going to be more important for food ball for me to be the director promoter than it will be for me to be the player.

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a limited what I can do for the sport is it better? I can't do anything more. Okay.

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I like to use get people great memories and sure who's ball players and listen that. And I'm not quitting. I'm, I'm competitive. You think I'm going to quit playing for you as well?

[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go and try to win every single local state tournament that's out there. But my four, I'm stepping down as a player, but I'll still play like, I don't know,

[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_03]: but that world's in Vegas, but I might play like a national's or a tour kick off with like a person that wins beginner singles.

[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting. Okay. It could be a prize. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: For your sponsorship. Oh, it's equal to me for being a player. You know, these are just ideas. You know, they're not, they're not set in stone.

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But I've thought about ideas like this that could grow the sport and be a benefit at the same time. I still get a compete.

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing you got to try and before you know, you got to, you got to put shoes on.

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Just walk around a little bit. We had, we had a lot of that happen early days of football, radio,

[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: food stock, a live trying new features, the weird things and there's some things just new right away.

[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I need to help me.

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But you have to do it. You've got to make the stride.

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm, I'm so encouraged by your conversation here. This is, this is some of the best news I've heard in the long time.

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know. And that's why it was such a, you know, me and mom feel so good about it. And, you know, with my ideas and her experience together is going to create something magical.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's just no way to get around that. It's just an awesome.

[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, we're going to have a really good mixture of what works and what could work.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. And we're going to solve this solution of how to grow the sport.

[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool. And I already have, like I said, phases to do that. And I'm going to go over those real quick. I'm sure that's something you would like.

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course. Of course. My first job is to create something visually, okay?

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Something that is marketable and something that can get our top players, sponsorships.

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Hallelujah. And a lot of that is to highlight the people that have dedicated their life to this football.

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And those top players should be the apex of the sport.

[01:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And every single person, they already do everybody wants to be a top player, but every single person should idolize these people.

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Outside, it doesn't look that way necessarily.

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Correct. Because it's one big party. And you know, back in the day when the masters were,

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: we're very selfish. And they did want to, you can't talk to me. I don't want to create that.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Our masters nowadays are awesome. It's good to have them talk to them.

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's more about making sure they want to continue to play.

[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's a personal decision.

[01:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But to make it so attractive to the people who want to play.

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. Let's make it to where these people are out there.

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're publicly out there. We get viral videos of these people going out there so that a sponsor could look at them and go,

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Look, this guy is actually on a billboard. He's in the airport.

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Being being, being, being a, wouldn't that be something? He's on a side of a semi-truck and going down the road.

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: He is getting recognition worldwide.

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I like to sponsor him and pay for all his shit.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And it'll, it'll work out for us right? Dude. So step one is elite players services.

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: These people are going to be treated as best as I possibly can without breaking the bank.

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice. My, my second phase to this is core player retention.

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is building the absolute best experience that I could possibly give the people.

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. So I got to figure it out in general. Yes, all players.

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And so first thing I do is create the best players and obviously give them what they deserve,

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: which is the highlight of the tournament. Sure.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: The next thing is is we won.

[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_03]: When I was up in coming, I always wanted to be the best player and that has, that, that has to thrive.

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And you have to create a really good experience.

[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And you have to make everybody happy. So this is a lot of what we talked about.

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So phase one is figure out how to make these, these talk with guys the best.

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Phase two is how do I make the tournament the best from everyone?

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. And make these people want to become the talk guys.

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Phase three is new player development.

[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So now we figure out how do we bring in existing older players or people that have played in the air for quit?

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. And how do we bring in brand new players to sections to that one?

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I got good ideas for both really.

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So we do these three because if you, if you don't have a reason for people to want to get better and become the elite

[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: and if you don't have a way to keep new players in the come in, there's no point to keep new players.

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. It's a chain if you do. And so that's kind of that I'm starting from the top and working my way down.

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And then once I have all this stuff going, then we can start talking about,

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_03]: ELEECs is also part of the phase two.

[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That ties in for sure.

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, ties in. So once we have that now we actually have a platform that's sponsorable.

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And now I can start actually going into companies and having them what to be part of something that's proactive towards making things viral,

[01:25:17] [SPEAKER_03]: making things widely available on social media right.

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And I have a part to sell. I'm a business guy.

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to sell a product unless I would buy it.

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's against my core belief.

[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to give you $150 less than if I don't think it's worth it.

[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. You know what I mean?

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. So I'm not going to go to a sponsor.

[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And say, look, here's the most beautiful picture that I could possibly give you.

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And if I were you, I would do it.

[01:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, unless I truly believe that.

[01:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, when I'm really good at it and I've done this, I agree.

[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of impact in my life.

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. It's a lot of money.

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And I know what business people think about.

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I know what they want, know what they want to see.

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Why they do what they do? Yeah.

[01:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of people will have asked me where we're going to try to get sponsors.

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to show you how many influencers know.

[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. I'm going to try to create something that's sponsorable.

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Ah, and then we go to sponsors.

[01:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go. No, it's always been that dilemma right?

[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So you have an image of a particular sport.

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take hockey for instance.

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They had an image problem for a while.

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they corrected by fighting less.

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then suddenly they had major, major support.

[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, for most most big sponsors in networks, of course.

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Fusball needs to portray itself as an entity, as a sport in the same way.

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. It comes with the visual of it again.

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: This is why the branding was so important to me.

[01:26:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to create the logo on my own and create a dood on my own and say,

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what? So I go down a rabbit hole and I was like, I need to give it.

[01:26:52] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the core of the tour.

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: This is what everything is the foundation.

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is what everything is going to be built off of is what it looks like.

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So I said, okay, I need to find an expert because I mean, I know it looks good.

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. As far as me creating it, maybe not to bend my forte, right?

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So I'm like, I need to find the absolute best person.

[01:27:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So I started going down rabbit holes on Google and I was like, who's the one doing the big guys?

[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, it's not just majorly teams. They literally do like all star logos.

[01:27:28] [SPEAKER_03]: They do the all star games for MLB. They go to it for MLB as well. So it just teams.

[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. And I was like, this is money.

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And I've read a list in this. You're going to go to fanboring.

[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to see go to work.

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Top right tab. You'll hit this drop down. Go to work here and see what they've done.

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Great stuff. So I got the guy on board.

[01:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and I'm very excited to give the world food ball tour the foundation that it needs.

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fantastic. Something good. Yeah. That is awesome.

[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's we got to hear more about this because I think this is just phase one of part one of how this episode of

[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Food Ball Radio on the road. We got to continue to follow up with you.

[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think there's been a lot of info spilled and probably as much as I possibly can right now.

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be a lot more that's released publicly. Like I said, we're going to have a video going out of the next couple days.

[01:28:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You know,

[01:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Basically initiate the switch over super cool video.

[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Clay has been awesome and can help me create it.

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it, you know, it checks all the boxes.

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously my mom's been pivotal for this board. It says that.

[01:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But let's, you know, what the world food is going to be about.

[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, simple sweet and to the point.

[01:28:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, things are going to start transitioning over time. You don't have a website built out. I had it locked down.

[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. Don't have Facebook built out.

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. Have everything locked down Twitch, YouTube. Everything's locked down.

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if we walked around, I owned it on the media site.

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_03]: But none of it's built out. Yeah.

[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay anywhere it first to have all the dunes.

[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It won't be a problem. We'll make it happen.

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. Well, it's, uh, man, what can I say?

[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting to that point of the weekend where I'm kind of like,

[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fading with my energy and feeling a little tired and trying to come up with a word or two that I think would be inspirational.

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But hey, man, I think you said it already.

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: No, appreciate it. Ryan Moore joining us on football radio on the road from the 2024 tornado championships for

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_01]: our olds, jacket of chips.

[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And we are looking forward to getting together again.

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll soon feel free to let us know anything that we can do as an entity, as a media member, anything we can do to help you out.

[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. It's a team effort.

[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, I am a one-person without the help of everybody.

[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no way that I will be able to make this thing go for it.

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. And this is not just people helping to build football.

[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: This is literally you coming to a tournament.

[01:30:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's building football.

[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it would out the players without the growth, without the positive energy.

[01:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: If we all decide to stop coming tomorrow, football is over.

[01:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's it.

[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: We have to want it more.

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, again, that's a play repeat, but it has to be changed.

[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You gotta be having an amazing time in the coming,

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and you got to feel like you went home like that was awesome.

[01:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna do it again. Yep. And if I can't do that for you, I don't expect you to support it.

[01:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. You heard it first right here on Fusball Radio on the road.

[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But Ryan Moore once again, thank you so much for spending time with us.

[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate it. Yeah, man. And go get him.

[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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