Jason Wicks, founder of the Foosball Sports Network, promoter and player, sits down for a chat during the 2024 ITSF Wor;ld Series of Tornado. Covering the sport of foosball has it's challenges and Jason gives us an inside look with this special edition of Foosball Radio on the Road.
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[00:00:01] The following is a presentation of Foosball Radio. Foosball Radio On the Road
[00:00:16] Hey, it's Tom Robinson. We are at the ITSF World Series of Tornado in Dallas, Texas at the Westin.
[00:00:25] What a weekend we have had. It's been amazing. This format, it's awesome.
[00:00:31] I can just, that's all I can say. It's an awesome format.
[00:00:35] But along the way this weekend of course we've been meeting a lot of people, getting to know a lot of new folks.
[00:00:40] But today what I'd like to do in our interview is talk to somebody I've known for a while.
[00:00:46] And now people say that I have the best voice in radio, best voice in Foosball. Not true.
[00:00:54] That would be my guest, Jason Wicks. Hello, Jason.
[00:00:57] Hey Tom, that's very kind of you to say.
[00:00:59] Listen to that voice, man. You've never done any kind of...
[00:01:03] No, I've been told my whole life that I should do voiceover work or radio voice.
[00:01:09] And I've just never...you know obviously I'm hearing myself in my head and I don't sound the way that I think I do.
[00:01:16] So I've never agreed with that feedback but I do get that quite a bit that I have that kind of tone.
[00:01:24] You've got to run with it. You've got to run with it.
[00:01:27] I work with people all the time who are getting into the industry and voice acting, this kind of thing.
[00:01:31] And man you would be one of my favorite students.
[00:01:35] Okay, okay. I like to learn things.
[00:01:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah. So okay, Brass Tax. You're here of course Foosball Network.
[00:01:44] Yeah, Foosball Sports Network.
[00:01:45] Yeah, Foosball Sports Network is large and in charge it seems.
[00:01:51] So just give me your overall first impression of what's happening with the ITSF World Series.
[00:01:56] I've been working with these guys in the back, you know, behind the scenes for this event for a couple months.
[00:02:04] And it is a very large group of people working together.
[00:02:09] Gotcha.
[00:02:10] And the one thing the ITSF does really well is they take the skills of the people that they are working with and they use them quite well.
[00:02:19] So if you can provide an asset or provide a skill or something to something they're trying to accomplish, they will use it.
[00:02:26] You know we've worked with obviously Texas State for years and Steve and I, Steve's like my dad.
[00:02:34] And working with the ITSF is like there's an extra layer of professionalism that you don't always get in a Foosball World.
[00:02:43] Right, right, right.
[00:02:44] There are professional expectations, there are deadlines, there are things that have to get done before the next step starts.
[00:02:51] And I enjoy it because it's...
[00:02:56] It's where you live.
[00:02:57] It is. I try to stay, you know, undistracted as much as possible although I am, you know, ADD kid.
[00:03:04] Okay.
[00:03:05] But working with these guys they have this vision and for however it is that they get there they always get where they want to go.
[00:03:13] Yeah, it's got to be tenacious because you know, I mean you're a tech guy. You've built your own network.
[00:03:21] Right.
[00:03:22] And just to think about the technical stuff, not even what people see behind the scenes stuff is unbelievably complex.
[00:03:31] Absolutely.
[00:03:32] So kudos first of all for doing that.
[00:03:35] Thank you.
[00:03:36] We need that desperately and I do want to get into that a bit but the other thing is these guys they brought a crew.
[00:03:42] They did.
[00:03:43] And a stage setup, I mean I'll grant you this, the pits here I've never seen anyone like it.
[00:03:50] This is definitely an ITSF style pits.
[00:03:52] Is it?
[00:03:53] It is. Now the problem with American foosball and the ITSF as a whole is that not very many Americans get exposed to it.
[00:04:01] Right.
[00:04:02] There's a very select group of American foosball players that get to experience the ITSF style.
[00:04:07] Yep.
[00:04:08] And this is the first ITSF you know, ran event in America.
[00:04:12] Wow.
[00:04:13] And we're all getting a taste of that European flavor.
[00:04:17] You know, and Americans as a whole we kind of rebel against Europe because you know.
[00:04:22] Yeah, I mean we have our own way of looking at it.
[00:04:24] We do right?
[00:04:25] We moved from Europe a long time ago.
[00:04:27] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:28] And we know better right but I will say like the level of professionalism is great.
[00:04:33] Yep.
[00:04:34] I actually watched the production crew stop a match yesterday because they weren't ready for the match to start.
[00:04:40] Wow.
[00:04:41] Which made me smile.
[00:04:42] Yeah.
[00:04:43] Because production is number one.
[00:04:45] And if we want to put a good product out there.
[00:04:49] You've got to have that standard.
[00:04:51] You have to have the control right?
[00:04:52] You do, you really do.
[00:04:54] It's very rare that you ever see the production team have that type of control.
[00:04:57] So okay, let's compare this to I don't know your average pro golf tournament.
[00:05:04] So you've got crews all over the place.
[00:05:07] You've got a central location where all videos fed through including you know from hole to hole to hole.
[00:05:13] They've got all the different cameras.
[00:05:14] They've got different people walking around making sure that you know everything set.
[00:05:18] Now that's a huge undertaking.
[00:05:19] I grant you that.
[00:05:20] Yes.
[00:05:21] But there's a standard.
[00:05:22] Yes.
[00:05:23] You know you watch CBS, you watch NBC, ABC.
[00:05:26] When they've got PGA on it's high end man.
[00:05:29] Right there is a standard.
[00:05:31] There is also a level of quality that is maintained and if it doesn't maintain then the production doesn't happen.
[00:05:41] Right.
[00:05:42] Exactly.
[00:05:43] We're not just going to rock with whatever it is we got.
[00:05:45] Oh.
[00:05:46] And why would you?
[00:05:47] Because you don't have to.
[00:05:48] Yeah.
[00:05:49] So proof of the concept in the sense that you on your own with your company, with your network
[00:05:57] there is a standard and I watched your stuff for DFW and your local streaming things like this.
[00:06:05] It's top notch.
[00:06:06] It's good.
[00:06:07] It's real good.
[00:06:08] So therein lies okay you're doing it by yourself for good and sake.
[00:06:12] Yes.
[00:06:13] Yes I am.
[00:06:14] I'm going to get enough people together in this side of the pond and imitate this what's happening here at the ITSF or band together with these dudes.
[00:06:24] Right.
[00:06:25] I set up there during one of the matches yesterday and it was ironic to me because I have never talked to them about their production or what it is that they use.
[00:06:34] They called me like two days before this event going hey we need this piece of equipment do you know where we can find it?
[00:06:41] Yeah I have a guy.
[00:06:42] Yeah.
[00:06:43] I can get that for you but other than that conversation I have had zero contact with these guys but I went up there and I watched them produce a match.
[00:06:51] Yep.
[00:06:52] And I see all of the same things that I have on my setup.
[00:06:55] I see the programs they use, I see the cameras, I see the interfaces, I see all these things and it's the same production just with different colors and combinations and logos and things like that.
[00:07:08] So one of the things that and again this goes way back when when I was in college and I was studying TV production as a communications major one of the things that in those days of course it was every TV show was done with three cameras.
[00:07:21] Right.
[00:07:22] Right so you had.
[00:07:23] Wide near and.
[00:07:24] Yeah exactly.
[00:07:25] You had different angles and as a director in the control booth you would have to communicate with each different camera operator and say okay camera two I want you to dolly in let's get a close up shot on the face of the guest.
[00:07:37] And then you'd say something like okay okay camera two ready go.
[00:07:42] Right.
[00:07:43] And there would be a switch.
[00:07:44] And there is no such thing as that in foosball which is ironic.
[00:07:46] Right.
[00:07:47] Now I have been developing that aspect on my end very slowly but I also we don't have camera operators in foosball.
[00:07:54] Correct.
[00:07:55] You know we don't have people working on the set if you will.
[00:08:01] The budget would be beyond belief.
[00:08:03] Right.
[00:08:04] Which is no way.
[00:08:05] I do the job the task that I have when I run one of my productions is three separate people's jobs.
[00:08:10] Right.
[00:08:11] I'm changing cameras.
[00:08:12] Yep.
[00:08:13] I'm you know I'm most of the time doing a bad job with commentary.
[00:08:18] I'm doing score.
[00:08:20] I'm trying to do instant replays.
[00:08:22] I'm also trying to make sure that chat's okay.
[00:08:25] Yeah.
[00:08:26] If I were to give if I were to split up the jobs that I do whenever I do get to do one of these productions.
[00:08:31] Yep.
[00:08:32] I need three of me.
[00:08:33] Well.
[00:08:34] I don't have enough arms and fingers to do it myself.
[00:08:38] So usually you know you can do something perfectly but if you're doing three things they're only getting 30% of that.
[00:08:45] Right.
[00:08:46] Right.
[00:08:47] So I'm doing 30% of as good as I could on each one of those tasks.
[00:08:51] At least you're doing it.
[00:08:52] Right.
[00:08:53] At least you're doing it.
[00:08:54] So okay again proof of concept you see what these guys are doing and of course they've got a crew and they're paying a lot of money to do this.
[00:09:00] But at the same time there has to be a standard by which everybody if you're going to be media of broadcasting or streaming any kind of foosball event.
[00:09:11] Especially at this level.
[00:09:12] Right.
[00:09:13] You definitely need.
[00:09:14] Right.
[00:09:15] You know you need a crew.
[00:09:16] You need people.
[00:09:17] You need support.
[00:09:18] And I mean there's I volunteer to do what I do with foosball radio and foos talk live.
[00:09:23] I'm sure there's other people in the sport would probably you know maybe jump in and help out.
[00:09:29] I think I've learned is foosball has a very very large network of people that have very specific skills.
[00:09:35] Yes.
[00:09:36] We have doctors we've got I mean to be frank we have homeless people right everything and
[00:09:40] everything in between that right.
[00:09:41] Exactly.
[00:09:42] So you know I've offered the skills that I've had that I have offered that to anyone
[00:09:47] that's willing to listen.
[00:09:49] Yep.
[00:09:50] And learn and you know I've assisted with inside foos.
[00:09:52] I've been I've assisted with modern foos and David Kala.
[00:09:55] Yep.
[00:09:56] I've done what I can and you know the key is you want to give somebody the tools and
[00:10:01] the knowledge and then they go do it themselves.
[00:10:04] Yep.
[00:10:05] And I love what what modern foos is doing.
[00:10:08] I really I really love their production.
[00:10:10] It's great.
[00:10:11] They're you know to say competition yet true we do compete but you know just to see
[00:10:17] those guys winning at streaming is a big smile puts a big smile on my face.
[00:10:21] How could you not go for that.
[00:10:23] Right.
[00:10:24] You know not because it's it makes foosball look great.
[00:10:27] Right.
[00:10:28] As it should you know and I and I you know I've worked and volunteered with inside
[00:10:31] foos for a couple years and yep and put my you know taste and my touch and my you
[00:10:38] know opinions into what they do and I think that they you know for the lack of
[00:10:43] volunteers that they have they're doing the best that they can for what they
[00:10:46] have now and they're investing their own money in this too.
[00:10:49] They are you know they are and they have asked me over the years you
[00:10:52] know what what equipment should we buy you know what what software should we use and
[00:10:56] so on and I've always given them the honest truth and you know even the blunt
[00:11:00] truth.
[00:11:01] Yeah.
[00:11:02] Because I love Jim and I love you know inside foos and I love working with
[00:11:04] those guys.
[00:11:05] Yep.
[00:11:06] There are some things that they could learn and do and obviously be better
[00:11:09] and you know but as so can we so can I there are things in my production
[00:11:12] that I'm not happy with.
[00:11:13] It's it's no matter what it is you do especially when it comes to a
[00:11:17] public correct public face there's always going to be somebody going
[00:11:21] amen that stream was like really lousy.
[00:11:24] What's wrong with you guys.
[00:11:26] Right and I watch a lot of you know video game streamers and stuff on
[00:11:29] Twitch and stuff like that.
[00:11:30] Yeah.
[00:11:31] And there's always someone in chat going the audio is too low the audio
[00:11:35] is too loud the audio there is no audio the camera is not doing this
[00:11:39] and most 95% of the time it's the person that's complaining your
[00:11:44] internet sucks right.
[00:11:45] You know we have something.
[00:11:47] Yeah you've got goodwill Internet you know get some better Internet
[00:11:50] and that's usually the problem or they're just a troll.
[00:11:52] Yes.
[00:11:53] Or the bridge foosball trolls got a level.
[00:11:56] They keep the foosball world going.
[00:11:57] Hey man you know whatever floats your boat we do our best.
[00:12:01] No it's it's it's true though we're we're fledgling when it comes
[00:12:06] to media we yes here's the odd thing 2018 when foosball radio
[00:12:11] was first born there was I think there was one podcast about
[00:12:15] foosball I've forgotten exactly I think somebody out of Colorado
[00:12:18] was doing something but I was astounded that there wasn't more
[00:12:22] I thought oh there's got to be at least four or five maybe six
[00:12:24] different podcasts just to just to check out about foosball
[00:12:27] nothing.
[00:12:28] Yeah nothing.
[00:12:29] So you know why that is right.
[00:12:31] No because everybody has an idea and when they realize the
[00:12:34] amount of time and effort and money that it has to go into
[00:12:36] it they start weighing the benefits over what the cost
[00:12:39] is but same thing with me right so I have this concept
[00:12:42] for a show that I've wanted to do for years.
[00:12:44] Yes.
[00:12:45] It's called Good Day Foosball and nice.
[00:12:48] I watch Good Morning Foosball on NFL Network.
[00:12:53] Yep.
[00:12:54] And I absolutely love everything that they do.
[00:12:56] Yep.
[00:12:57] And I have had the idea in my head that I'm going to recreate
[00:12:59] that for foosball.
[00:13:00] Put that in the foosball arena.
[00:13:02] Follow the same visual concepts that they have.
[00:13:05] I'm down for that.
[00:13:06] I'm going to steal that idea kind of thing.
[00:13:08] Yeah.
[00:13:09] And I've got one episode done.
[00:13:10] Do you.
[00:13:11] And I it was a live stream and the concept was we're
[00:13:13] going to watch foosball together.
[00:13:15] We're going to talk about the people that are playing.
[00:13:17] We're going to talk about the analyze you know we're
[00:13:19] going to analyze what's going on.
[00:13:21] Yep.
[00:13:22] You know but and it was going to be something that I was
[00:13:25] going to do every Tuesday and Thursday.
[00:13:27] Okay.
[00:13:28] And I did the first one.
[00:13:29] It went well.
[00:13:30] I had fun but I spent three days getting ready for it.
[00:13:34] Yes.
[00:13:35] And then I was like okay now I got to find all new
[00:13:37] footage and I got and you know and to be honest I
[00:13:40] haven't been able to stream very many tournaments.
[00:13:42] Yeah.
[00:13:43] I don't have 20 years worth of footage to watch.
[00:13:47] No.
[00:13:48] I mean granted I have all of my local tournaments.
[00:13:50] Oh yeah.
[00:13:51] But nobody wants to watch that on our on on a you
[00:13:54] know so having having access to all of the
[00:13:56] tournaments that have ever existed that that
[00:13:58] would help inside foos.
[00:14:00] I mean and I think that they would allow me to
[00:14:02] you know some of that.
[00:14:04] Sure.
[00:14:05] You know any what is the saying any what is
[00:14:08] the saying anything is.
[00:14:10] So essentially what you're trying to say is that if
[00:14:13] we're of the same family we can still share.
[00:14:15] Yes.
[00:14:16] Yeah.
[00:14:17] We can share the share the wealth there and I'm
[00:14:19] sure Jim would have no issue with that at all.
[00:14:21] Right.
[00:14:22] I mean he's on most of those so.
[00:14:24] Right.
[00:14:25] Right.
[00:14:26] Any marketing is great marketing.
[00:14:27] Any publicity is good publicity.
[00:14:28] Right.
[00:14:29] Exactly.
[00:14:30] Same thing right it's going to say inside
[00:14:31] foos in the bottom right hand corner and I'm
[00:14:32] going to be talking about a video that they
[00:14:33] did.
[00:14:34] There you go.
[00:14:35] That you know I'm sure but the amount of work
[00:14:36] that went into it for me to be able to do that on
[00:14:38] a two day a week basis.
[00:14:40] Not so easy.
[00:14:41] You know on top of all the other stuff that
[00:14:43] I'm also doing it was just way too much.
[00:14:45] Yeah.
[00:14:46] Yeah.
[00:14:47] And who wants to sit there and talk all by
[00:14:49] themselves for multiple hours at a time.
[00:14:51] Not many.
[00:14:52] Right.
[00:14:53] Right.
[00:14:54] There's no color commentary to your own
[00:14:55] commentary.
[00:14:56] You have to kind of have like it's almost
[00:14:58] guaranteed you have to have at least two
[00:15:00] if not three people.
[00:15:01] Right.
[00:15:02] Because one person is focusing on one area
[00:15:04] and has certain knowledge and another person has
[00:15:06] another perspective.
[00:15:07] You can't debate yourself.
[00:15:09] Right exactly.
[00:15:10] Exactly.
[00:15:11] And it's I mean we experienced that with
[00:15:12] foos talk live.
[00:15:13] I mean when Jim and I got together and did
[00:15:15] that as soon as Mark Torres jumped in
[00:15:18] something changed.
[00:15:20] Right.
[00:15:21] Because there's an antagonist there.
[00:15:22] Yes.
[00:15:23] Exactly.
[00:15:24] You and Jim see very eye to eye and
[00:15:25] Mark doesn't see anything.
[00:15:29] Well he is unique.
[00:15:30] Is he not?
[00:15:31] He is Mark Torres.
[00:15:32] Right.
[00:15:33] But so yeah I mean conceptually and here's
[00:15:36] again you go back to that idea that hey I'm
[00:15:38] going to do this twice a week.
[00:15:40] That's ambitious man.
[00:15:41] Yes.
[00:15:42] That's a lot of extra prep.
[00:15:44] Just foos talk live.
[00:15:46] I'm spending I would say four to five hours
[00:15:49] prior to every show.
[00:15:50] Yeah.
[00:15:51] Gathering information making sure everything's
[00:15:53] you know rocking with the video whatever.
[00:15:56] I mean I exaggerate maybe three hours now
[00:15:59] because I've got it better.
[00:16:00] I've got better at it.
[00:16:01] You know I spent like 45 minutes with you yesterday
[00:16:03] working on this thing.
[00:16:04] I know.
[00:16:05] We try to get this thing to work.
[00:16:06] Yeah.
[00:16:07] The gremlins the gremlins.
[00:16:08] Yeah so let me say something that said
[00:16:10] like so as far as you know streaming and
[00:16:12] stuff like that goes.
[00:16:13] Yeah.
[00:16:14] You know my vision for football sports
[00:16:16] network as far as broadcasting goes.
[00:16:18] Yep.
[00:16:19] Started from I want to go back and watch
[00:16:22] my own tournaments.
[00:16:23] Yes.
[00:16:24] I want to watch my local players I
[00:16:25] want to learn I want to be able to
[00:16:26] tell somebody hey this is the tell that
[00:16:28] you have and so on and so forth.
[00:16:29] Right.
[00:16:30] But then the long the long term goal
[00:16:33] and vision that I had for it was the
[00:16:36] reason why I called it foosball sports
[00:16:37] network is because I wanted a network
[00:16:39] of foosball.
[00:16:40] Yes.
[00:16:41] And I'm pretty close to being able
[00:16:44] to expand on that where.
[00:16:46] Okay.
[00:16:47] Streaming equipment can be expensive
[00:16:49] and there's a lot of options and
[00:16:51] not a whole lot of people know a
[00:16:52] lot about it.
[00:16:53] Right.
[00:16:54] Right.
[00:16:55] And I'm more than willing to
[00:16:56] answer questions from anybody about
[00:16:57] what they should buy or what
[00:16:58] they should use and what's the least
[00:16:59] expensive and so on.
[00:17:01] But I'm ready.
[00:17:03] I'm ready to expand on what I'm
[00:17:06] currently doing.
[00:17:07] And so the next step in this is I
[00:17:09] want to provide equipment for
[00:17:12] local foosball scenes that are
[00:17:14] active dude.
[00:17:15] And I want them to stream the only
[00:17:18] the only hook on the whole part
[00:17:19] that they have to stream on foosball
[00:17:20] sports network.
[00:17:21] Okay.
[00:17:22] Gotcha.
[00:17:23] Just similar to ESPN right.
[00:17:24] ESPN ESPN 2 ESPN 3 and so on.
[00:17:26] Yep.
[00:17:27] ESPN 1 2 3 and 4.
[00:17:29] Okay.
[00:17:30] And what I'd love to have is
[00:17:32] every night of the week one or
[00:17:34] two streams going at one time at
[00:17:36] the same time one on ESPN one on
[00:17:38] ESPN 2.
[00:17:39] And if people want to watch
[00:17:41] foosball seven days a week
[00:17:43] every night they have the
[00:17:44] ability to do that.
[00:17:45] There you go.
[00:17:46] You know my investment in doing
[00:17:47] something like that for a local
[00:17:48] scene is about a thousand
[00:17:49] dollars.
[00:17:50] That's actually not bad.
[00:17:51] That's not bad.
[00:17:52] You know I'm not I wouldn't
[00:17:54] ask them to pay something because
[00:17:56] I ultimately the same thing that
[00:17:57] they're doing here with foosball
[00:17:58] TV.
[00:17:59] I want the footage.
[00:18:00] Right.
[00:18:01] I want the time I want the on
[00:18:03] time air the airtime.
[00:18:05] Right.
[00:18:06] And so I'm to the point where
[00:18:07] I'm comfortable in saying that
[00:18:08] I'm ready to start doing that.
[00:18:10] Okay.
[00:18:11] Probably not just every single
[00:18:12] person I know but there are
[00:18:13] a select group of people that
[00:18:15] I talk about this quite a bit.
[00:18:16] Yes.
[00:18:17] You know like Matt McCrory
[00:18:18] Yeah.
[00:18:19] Buffalo.
[00:18:20] I'm going to be sending him
[00:18:22] you know an equipment package
[00:18:23] and he's you know he's kind
[00:18:25] of my guinea pig for this.
[00:18:26] Okay.
[00:18:27] I want him to stream on FSN and
[00:18:28] FSN too.
[00:18:29] I've got a cup I've got enough
[00:18:31] equipment to do this for four
[00:18:33] people right now.
[00:18:34] Okay.
[00:18:35] So so we you know if you want
[00:18:37] to go across New York State to
[00:18:38] the state capitol in Albany
[00:18:40] we're we're down for we're
[00:18:41] actually doing our own streaming
[00:18:43] right now.
[00:18:44] Right.
[00:18:45] I know I've talked to you
[00:18:46] about it.
[00:18:47] Yeah yeah yeah so we're
[00:18:48] we're down for for joining up
[00:18:49] if that's something that we
[00:18:50] could do.
[00:18:51] We can work on that.
[00:18:52] Nice nice.
[00:18:53] It's a and the funny thing is
[00:18:54] now that we're doing it you know
[00:18:55] not every single Friday we've
[00:18:57] had a couple of glitches and
[00:18:58] sometimes the Internet's kind of
[00:18:59] messed up but it's worked to
[00:19:01] the extent where people are
[00:19:02] like oh man we're checking it
[00:19:03] out every Friday now.
[00:19:04] You know Friday night we start
[00:19:06] usually around 7 30 and people
[00:19:07] are are gathering and watching
[00:19:09] yeah you know and you know
[00:19:11] one of the things if I'm the
[00:19:12] one controlling the equipment
[00:19:13] and the camera and the the
[00:19:15] platform then the standard
[00:19:17] that we talked about
[00:19:18] previously gets upheld.
[00:19:20] Yes.
[00:19:21] You know the only variable
[00:19:22] to that is going to be Internet
[00:19:23] speed.
[00:19:24] Okay.
[00:19:25] Okay.
[00:19:26] Because I can't control the
[00:19:27] Internet obviously if I wanted
[00:19:28] to pay for the Internet for
[00:19:29] these guys to use that that
[00:19:30] could get expensive.
[00:19:31] Oh yeah yeah yeah but you know
[00:19:33] as long as the Internet's
[00:19:34] you know relatively quick
[00:19:35] stable and stable.
[00:19:36] Yep.
[00:19:37] Then there's no issues.
[00:19:40] It's I think it's a it's a
[00:19:42] it to me it's a the germ
[00:19:44] of the idea and you're
[00:19:45] carried it much further than
[00:19:46] that you've got these little
[00:19:47] tiny plants now you've grown
[00:19:48] and now you want to you
[00:19:49] want to share with other
[00:19:50] people and let this thing
[00:19:51] grow.
[00:19:52] Right.
[00:19:53] Yeah my vision was if I can
[00:19:54] get as many people streaming
[00:19:55] foosball.
[00:19:56] Yes.
[00:19:57] On social media the more
[00:19:59] the more times that foosball
[00:20:00] is on a is on a phone screen
[00:20:02] or computer screen or even a
[00:20:04] TV.
[00:20:05] Yep.
[00:20:06] The more people get to watch
[00:20:07] it.
[00:20:08] Oh yeah.
[00:20:09] You know I don't believe
[00:20:10] in the paywall or the
[00:20:11] pay-per-view foosball
[00:20:12] and you know that's that's
[00:20:13] a subject you know
[00:20:14] discussion for another day
[00:20:15] yeah but I get people in
[00:20:16] my stream every week that
[00:20:17] have never seen foosball
[00:20:18] and they came there
[00:20:19] because it was suggested to
[00:20:20] them on Twitch.
[00:20:21] No kidding.
[00:20:22] Yeah.
[00:20:23] No kidding and I have found
[00:20:24] local players in Dallas that
[00:20:25] have started playing foosball
[00:20:26] because they found me on
[00:20:27] Twitch.
[00:20:28] Nice.
[00:20:29] See that's the whole idea
[00:20:30] right so we're always
[00:20:32] struggling with OK how do you
[00:20:34] make this consumable from a
[00:20:36] non-foozeball perspective
[00:20:38] because it's so fast it's
[00:20:41] so difficult to see especially
[00:20:43] when you've got your on camera
[00:20:45] how do you make it so
[00:20:46] somebody goes oh you know
[00:20:48] that's really I used to play
[00:20:49] that game yes you know that's
[00:20:51] that's really cool and then
[00:20:52] they get a chance to see what
[00:20:53] the pro level is like or
[00:20:54] you know even a amateur level
[00:20:56] of the amateur level yeah
[00:20:57] and they go oh you know what
[00:20:59] I think I'm going to go see if
[00:21:01] I can find a table locally
[00:21:02] and you know go out Saturday
[00:21:04] night and try and play it's
[00:21:06] it's putting the thought in
[00:21:08] their mind you know this is
[00:21:10] something they could do too
[00:21:11] there is I guess the hardest
[00:21:16] part about this is how do you
[00:21:19] do that how do you make it
[00:21:21] palatable for a person who's
[00:21:23] just oh you know I did that in
[00:21:25] high school or you know we had
[00:21:27] one of these my college
[00:21:28] dormitories you know and we
[00:21:30] were I was good at it but
[00:21:32] you know I don't know what I
[00:21:35] mean easy yeah and get them
[00:21:36] to watch it yeah that's it
[00:21:37] okay okay well I mean case
[00:21:40] and point I'm a terrible
[00:21:41] golfer but I watched the PGA
[00:21:43] and after I've watched a
[00:21:44] match I'm like I'm like
[00:21:45] I gotta get out I gotta get on
[00:21:47] the course man that swing
[00:21:48] looks easy let me go see if I
[00:21:49] can do that there you go that's
[00:21:50] how it works there you go
[00:21:51] monkey see monkey do remember
[00:21:52] we've been doing that since
[00:21:53] we were born it's learned by
[00:21:55] example but I think that
[00:21:58] that with the foosball sports
[00:22:00] network with the willingness
[00:22:02] to do what you're about to
[00:22:04] do man I think that's
[00:22:05] exciting anybody who doesn't
[00:22:08] want to be a part of it is
[00:22:09] you got to wonder what their
[00:22:11] agenda is you know right if
[00:22:13] you got a d. y. p. I mean
[00:22:15] trying to think now Mario
[00:22:17] from Ottawa Canada he came
[00:22:19] down to one of our smash
[00:22:20] downs in Albany and he brought
[00:22:22] his rig with him and then set
[00:22:23] it up and streamed the entire
[00:22:25] smash down the entire
[00:22:27] tournament and I stood there
[00:22:29] in a watch you know I asked
[00:22:30] them a bunch of questions
[00:22:31] and stuff and he wanted he
[00:22:32] wanted to show me what he
[00:22:33] was doing in fact we've
[00:22:35] communicated back and forth
[00:22:36] a few times and he's Canada
[00:22:38] yeah and he's got a nice
[00:22:40] standard too so would you
[00:22:41] cross borders would you I
[00:22:43] think so I mean I'm looking
[00:22:44] for active communities
[00:22:46] okay in Texas or in Dallas
[00:22:48] specifically we have an event
[00:22:50] Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
[00:22:51] Saturday wow and so if I can
[00:22:55] get you know other active
[00:22:57] places that would be the
[00:22:59] better for me because that
[00:23:00] means less cameras and
[00:23:02] equipment that I need to send
[00:23:04] out right if I send it to
[00:23:05] someplace that has one night
[00:23:06] a week my equipment's being
[00:23:08] used one day every seven
[00:23:10] days wow but if I send it to
[00:23:12] Matt in Buffalo who has
[00:23:14] something like five or six
[00:23:15] days a week yeah he's got a
[00:23:16] lot he's going to be on my
[00:23:18] network every night man and I
[00:23:20] get more I get more out of
[00:23:21] that than than one camera
[00:23:23] being used one night a week
[00:23:24] right exactly that's that is
[00:23:26] such a great concept man I
[00:23:27] think let's you know if we
[00:23:29] can do anything to help you
[00:23:30] grow that sure we'll totally
[00:23:31] you know people need to know
[00:23:33] more information in fact if
[00:23:34] they want to reach out what
[00:23:35] you have an email or I do it's
[00:23:37] Jason wicks at foosball
[00:23:38] sports network dot com and
[00:23:40] I'm going to create a page on
[00:23:42] my website it's gonna it's
[00:23:43] gonna be something along along
[00:23:45] the lines of a form you know
[00:23:47] feel out interesting okay I'm
[00:23:48] interested in this and I'll
[00:23:50] go through all of those you
[00:23:52] know inquiries and reach out
[00:23:54] to the guys that they either
[00:23:56] meet their requirements and
[00:23:57] so forth excellent you know
[00:23:59] I've got I said I've got
[00:24:00] enough for maybe four separate
[00:24:03] people to do this right now
[00:24:04] and maybe I do it a month
[00:24:06] at a time hey you know I'm
[00:24:07] going to send this to you for
[00:24:08] the next yeah month two months
[00:24:09] and then you send it back and
[00:24:11] then I'll send it to somebody
[00:24:12] else and so on that way man
[00:24:14] more people can you know join
[00:24:16] in and anything any money or
[00:24:18] ad revenue or whatever that I
[00:24:19] would make from this I'm
[00:24:21] gonna set that aside and I'm
[00:24:23] going to purchase more equipment
[00:24:24] whenever I get to the point
[00:24:25] where I can do that nice so
[00:24:27] what are you like so I mean
[00:24:28] what would be your cap like
[00:24:29] 20 20 clubs or I mean I
[00:24:32] don't I haven't even I haven't
[00:24:33] even thought about the cap
[00:24:34] yet okay you know I've got
[00:24:35] obviously my club Matt's going
[00:24:37] to be testing this out for me
[00:24:38] here so one six yeah and then
[00:24:41] I've got you know I've talked
[00:24:42] to Tony Owens in Oklahoma
[00:24:43] about that I know that they've
[00:24:45] had a little bit of fluctuation
[00:24:46] in their tournaments recently
[00:24:47] but you know and place plus
[00:24:50] McGuze is really hard to stream
[00:24:52] from yes I've been fighting
[00:24:54] those gremlins for years
[00:24:55] but you know I haven't put
[00:24:57] a cap on it yet okay but
[00:25:00] it's something that I
[00:25:01] definitely want to focus on
[00:25:02] here that's actually a problem
[00:25:04] you'd rather have yes right I've
[00:25:06] got too many people want this
[00:25:07] rather than not enough yes if I
[00:25:09] have too many people I might be
[00:25:10] able to justify you know spending
[00:25:11] a little bit more money sure sure
[00:25:13] you know to be honest I have
[00:25:14] like 10 or 12 go pros that are
[00:25:15] just sitting in a in a case
[00:25:17] somewhere in my closet wow and
[00:25:19] you know I've got a couple
[00:25:21] streaming devices okay and it's
[00:25:23] really easy to set up you know
[00:25:25] once it's set up for the
[00:25:26] location you basically point
[00:25:28] it at the table turn it on
[00:25:29] connect to internet and hit go
[00:25:30] plug-and-play yeah that's
[00:25:32] see that that we appreciate that
[00:25:34] it's what it's one tripod yeah
[00:25:36] which I would ask the the
[00:25:38] location to provide I don't want
[00:25:40] to send out a thousand tripods
[00:25:41] there's one over there I haven't
[00:25:42] yet I have that tripod and then
[00:25:44] it's one camera it's one streaming
[00:25:46] device and it's one microphone
[00:25:48] okay they well hey quick
[00:25:51] question about that when
[00:25:53] someone is streaming let's say
[00:25:55] from a club or let's
[00:25:58] say it's a well for us it's
[00:26:00] a pool hall but there's a jukebox
[00:26:02] and the music gets played in the
[00:26:04] background we've noticed we've had
[00:26:06] a couple of warnings about hey you
[00:26:08] don't own this music yeah because
[00:26:10] we had our microphone which so is
[00:26:12] there something we can do about
[00:26:14] that I mean can you I generally and
[00:26:16] this is the number one complaint that
[00:26:18] I get from people is your audio is too
[00:26:20] low I generally keep my audio pretty
[00:26:22] low okay now the benefit of twitch
[00:26:24] is that it's not going to they're
[00:26:26] not going to shut down your stream
[00:26:28] and I'm an affiliate streamer on
[00:26:30] twitch so what happens is they
[00:26:33] if it's too frequent they will
[00:26:36] automatically unpublish the video
[00:26:38] once it's done okay and then I have
[00:26:40] to manually go in and publish it and
[00:26:42] it'll just be muted for the points
[00:26:44] music is playing okay okay but
[00:26:47] live it'll be just like it's normal
[00:26:49] nice that's that's something I mean
[00:26:51] I don't think we'll be doing commentary
[00:26:53] necessarily but it's nice just to have
[00:26:55] that that sound of the table the
[00:26:57] sound of the of the shots because that's
[00:26:59] an addictive sound that is exactly it
[00:27:01] man that's why people get so it's like
[00:27:03] don't change the sound yet go to the
[00:27:05] pleasure center in your brain right but
[00:27:07] boom that sound and it's
[00:27:09] yeah that's I think we're
[00:27:11] we're we're creatures of habit
[00:27:15] and we get into the habit of having
[00:27:17] a place where we can watch matches
[00:27:19] I don't know seven days a week
[00:27:21] that would be great man oh and
[00:27:24] multiple different places right yeah
[00:27:26] you could pull up FSN and FSN
[00:27:28] two and watch two separate streams
[00:27:30] and what a concept that's such a
[00:27:32] beautiful concept man as an
[00:27:34] even for larger tournaments right if you
[00:27:36] had it if you had you know your smash
[00:27:37] down right once a month I can send
[00:27:39] equipment to that nice as long as you're
[00:27:41] willing to set it up and you know
[00:27:43] things the way that I ask oh yeah I
[00:27:45] could be doing that remotely as well
[00:27:47] you know and for that type of thing
[00:27:49] I have the ability to do remote commentary
[00:27:51] remote scoring remote graphics nice
[00:27:53] all that stuff as well yeah I know
[00:27:55] we've there's some technology that
[00:27:57] we've uncovered where I believe
[00:27:59] of the OBS studio and forgotten the
[00:28:02] name of the other software but you can
[00:28:04] set up so the the names are
[00:28:07] automatically correct changed out I
[00:28:09] haven't I haven't all the names that I do
[00:28:11] or are still manual and I'm going to
[00:28:13] work with David on getting that fixed
[00:28:15] yep but yeah because since I don't use
[00:28:17] OBS and everybody that uses that
[00:28:19] uses OBS yep it's a little bit more work
[00:28:21] for me okay I got you know it's
[00:28:23] one step at a time you know we'll get
[00:28:25] there eventually but yeah just to have
[00:28:27] the stream and I think this is this is
[00:28:29] such a great concept such a great idea
[00:28:31] now I got it I got to talk to you about
[00:28:33] some other things here too you know
[00:28:35] you know when it comes to Dallas
[00:28:39] this used to be the center of the
[00:28:41] universe when it came to world
[00:28:43] championships right is that going to
[00:28:45] happen again are you talking about
[00:28:47] the World Series here yeah yes it
[00:28:49] will happen again nice it will not be
[00:28:51] again this weekend obviously Texas State
[00:28:53] we're taking our weekend back next year
[00:28:55] okay but yes the it's a world series
[00:28:57] will continue I believe at least
[00:28:59] for the next five years yep
[00:29:01] and I really hope you know
[00:29:05] to put it in perspective last weekend
[00:29:07] was the Bonzini World Series yeah
[00:29:09] there were over 800 people there
[00:29:11] wow 800 so I would love to see
[00:29:13] 800 people show up here in five
[00:29:15] years no doubt man that's
[00:29:17] that's achievable especially if it's
[00:29:19] timed out well yes you know I mean
[00:29:21] oddly enough suddenly we're
[00:29:23] starting to see so many tournaments
[00:29:25] happening right all year long right
[00:29:27] right I talked to Farid about that
[00:29:29] specifically he said and I don't
[00:29:31] quote me on this but he said something
[00:29:33] about 700 different tournaments in Europe
[00:29:35] in a year 700 something like that
[00:29:37] yes wow so and if you
[00:29:39] think about it the United States is just
[00:29:41] as large as Europe yeah there's no
[00:29:43] reason why there can't be two tournaments
[00:29:45] on the same weekend or even three
[00:29:47] on the west coast north south
[00:29:49] I mean we're a lot what's a big country
[00:29:51] oh yeah you know and for
[00:29:53] a swiss style tournament like this
[00:29:55] yep you don't need 400 people
[00:29:57] to show up to be successful true that
[00:29:59] you know especially if you do
[00:30:01] you know everything to set up the
[00:30:03] payouts and everything correct yeah
[00:30:05] man well that's that
[00:30:07] that to me is very very exciting I
[00:30:09] think that again being
[00:30:11] I'm just a media whore
[00:30:13] I don't know if I can use that term
[00:30:15] here I know we
[00:30:17] can say whatever the hell we want right
[00:30:19] no it's it's it is true though
[00:30:21] because that
[00:30:23] to me that's what's missing
[00:30:25] that's the thing you know it's what we
[00:30:27] if we can band together and
[00:30:29] pull our resources and doing exactly
[00:30:31] what you're doing about let's get people
[00:30:33] out there let's stream everybody's
[00:30:35] everybody's matches right let's make this visible
[00:30:37] as we possibly can suddenly we want
[00:30:39] being as big as
[00:30:41] I don't know paper airplane championships
[00:30:43] I don't know right it's
[00:30:45] cup stacking you know and on that note
[00:30:47] so I have this vision
[00:30:49] my daughter plays competitive volleyball
[00:30:51] club volleyball okay you know
[00:30:53] she's a 16 you are 17
[00:30:55] you player okay and we travel
[00:30:57] across the U.S. to watch volleyball tournaments and things like
[00:30:59] that oh yeah and we were in
[00:31:01] Minnesota this year we're we were in Dallas
[00:31:03] for the lone star classic and
[00:31:05] at the lone star classic there was a hundred and
[00:31:07] thirty volleyball courts 130
[00:31:09] yes and every single one
[00:31:11] of them was streamed yeah I
[00:31:13] see a day where a tournament
[00:31:15] that I run will have a streaming device on every
[00:31:17] single table this is not
[00:31:19] the first time I've heard this somebody else
[00:31:21] forgotten who it was now I was
[00:31:23] I think it was not hard to say yeah
[00:31:25] and yeah I mean it's it's like maybe you
[00:31:27] set up a phone on each table
[00:31:29] that's what they use okay they for
[00:31:31] the volleyball they use a like 16 foot
[00:31:33] tripod okay a phone
[00:31:35] with a wide camera with wide angle camera lens
[00:31:37] and an iPad
[00:31:39] to control it interesting
[00:31:41] that that well clearly
[00:31:43] the technology exists it does exist
[00:31:45] internet internet's the issue just like everything
[00:31:47] else yeah I was thinking about bandwidth
[00:31:49] then you know Starlink is the is
[00:31:51] the solution for that Starlink yes
[00:31:53] really okay so there is
[00:31:55] something that can be done technically to
[00:31:57] make that happen yes wow okay
[00:31:59] well and that would
[00:32:01] be the only time I would ever see paper view
[00:32:03] foosball working right okay
[00:32:05] you know offering 50 free streams
[00:32:07] might be a stretch
[00:32:09] but let's say you get
[00:32:11] 50 streams but three of them can be
[00:32:13] paper view right I don't know maybe you know
[00:32:15] maybe just the pro section you know
[00:32:17] pro masters something like that yeah
[00:32:19] here's another on that topic
[00:32:21] do you see a
[00:32:23] day when
[00:32:25] there are certain formats
[00:32:27] or tournaments that are built around
[00:32:29] just pros and pro masters yes I do
[00:32:31] okay and on that
[00:32:33] note I've actually been working on
[00:32:35] something very similar to that for probably
[00:32:37] two years now really yes
[00:32:39] it's a championship
[00:32:41] style tour okay where
[00:32:43] it's very similar to how they do it
[00:32:45] in Europe where you earn points
[00:32:47] for participating okay you qualify
[00:32:49] for winning there's
[00:32:51] a tournament tour championship at the
[00:32:53] end of the thing at the end of the year okay
[00:32:55] and you can actually crown a champion
[00:32:57] for the entire tour for that year similar to
[00:32:59] how they do in golf or they do in
[00:33:00] NASCAR they do any of these other sports
[00:33:02] yeah you know it's a concept
[00:33:04] that I've been putting a lot of effort and money
[00:33:06] into over the last I'd say 12 months
[00:33:08] mm-hmm and I'm
[00:33:10] really close to making it public
[00:33:12] nice I'm in the process
[00:33:14] of acquiring the tables that I need
[00:33:16] to be able to do it but to start
[00:33:18] I'm thinking five tournaments
[00:33:20] and a tour championship
[00:33:22] three separate series
[00:33:24] to go along with the
[00:33:26] you know the ITSF thing using the word series
[00:33:28] instead of ranks or whatever it is
[00:33:30] right where there's an open rank
[00:33:32] for pros and masters there's a no pro
[00:33:34] rank or series for everybody
[00:33:36] else and then there's a female
[00:33:38] mm-hmm series and then even
[00:33:40] expanding that when more and more tables
[00:33:42] become available to juniors and seniors
[00:33:44] and so on gotcha gotcha
[00:33:46] no it just seems to me
[00:33:48] there is this
[00:33:50] I think people would be so compelled
[00:33:52] to watch an entire
[00:33:54] let's say
[00:33:56] tournament that just is all about
[00:33:58] the best pros and pro masters
[00:34:00] on the planet right and just because
[00:34:02] that's top notch you don't get any
[00:34:04] better that's like watching the NFL
[00:34:06] right oh absolutely absolutely
[00:34:08] and there should be incentive
[00:34:10] for those pros and pro masters to step
[00:34:12] up because they're getting sponsors
[00:34:14] or you know there's something that's
[00:34:16] taking care of their expenses so right
[00:34:18] you know if they're on the tour and
[00:34:20] you know they have a good sponsor
[00:34:22] like I mean think about golf and you
[00:34:24] put your cap on it says Nike right
[00:34:26] or you've got
[00:34:28] a titleist on your shirt right
[00:34:30] you know that's huge
[00:34:32] dollars yes for those players
[00:34:34] why couldn't Tony
[00:34:36] Sprateman put on a
[00:34:38] monster drink
[00:34:40] absolutely monster drink you know
[00:34:42] logoed shirt
[00:34:44] or have a hat that has
[00:34:46] the logo of his sponsor it just seems
[00:34:48] like wait wait wait what are we missing here
[00:34:50] why are we doing this right
[00:34:52] absolutely there is an opportunity for it and you see
[00:34:54] that at tournaments like
[00:34:56] the ITSF everybody's got to wear
[00:34:58] jersey you start seeing those kinds
[00:35:00] of things people look the same when they
[00:35:02] play together it's looking like they just walked
[00:35:04] up to the table and they're playing a pickup game right
[00:35:06] you know matching jerseys and having
[00:35:08] the dress code and all of that I think
[00:35:10] that's very good for being able to sell this
[00:35:12] to somebody like a monster or Nike
[00:35:14] or whoever it is right exactly
[00:35:16] well and speaking
[00:35:18] of which I mean you have your hand
[00:35:20] in printing things too right I mean
[00:35:22] yeah you're getting involved I have my
[00:35:24] friends through players guys that you know guys
[00:35:26] and gals that wear my jersey whenever they come
[00:35:28] to tournaments and nice you know
[00:35:30] the agreement that I have with them you know
[00:35:32] benefits us both mutually and
[00:35:34] you know I
[00:35:36] think they enjoy it based on my feedback
[00:35:38] I get from them they enjoy it as well I mean
[00:35:40] the only other group that I know
[00:35:42] that has done that actively is Fooze Gear
[00:35:44] right so I know when
[00:35:46] Ryan Morrow was sponsoring Sammy DeGeneres
[00:35:48] yeah I remember that I remember the video of him
[00:35:50] and the limo and all that right
[00:35:52] again that elevates
[00:35:54] the desire
[00:35:56] for other people to do this correct yes
[00:35:58] it's like oh look at that man
[00:36:00] and that's a really cool shirt and wow
[00:36:02] I can do that too
[00:36:04] right so right and that's one of the concepts
[00:36:06] that I have you know Fooze Ball players
[00:36:08] don't get they don't have a lot
[00:36:10] of merchandising for themselves right
[00:36:12] you know whenever I you know approach
[00:36:14] the girls and gals that are on my team
[00:36:16] you know I have Blake and Michael Stahl
[00:36:18] and Sullivan and Hannah
[00:36:20] on my team I had Brandon but he is
[00:36:22] now with Fooze Gear is he really
[00:36:24] you know they have their own Jersey
[00:36:26] minus Sullivan because she just for whatever
[00:36:28] reason can't get me a design
[00:36:30] okay but they have their own Jersey
[00:36:32] and people can buy and wear their jerseys
[00:36:34] and that supports the players themselves
[00:36:36] so if you go to Fooze Ball Sports Network
[00:36:38] and you buy a Hannah Smith jersey
[00:36:40] that goes to benefit Hannah
[00:36:42] and the more people that do that
[00:36:44] the more tournaments she goes to
[00:36:46] same thing with Blake same thing with
[00:36:48] Giff you know when Sullivan
[00:36:50] gets a jersey
[00:36:52] you know that's
[00:36:54] something that goes to benefit those guys
[00:36:56] it's gotta be like not just
[00:36:58] any old Jersey man it's gotta be
[00:37:00] fashion statement it does trust me
[00:37:02] I have sent her and her mom
[00:37:04] maybe 10 different Jersey designs and all of them are like
[00:37:06] man we're close
[00:37:08] we're close no I don't like that one
[00:37:10] at all but yeah oh man it's like
[00:37:12] they're picking out a wedding gown or something
[00:37:14] pretty much yeah it's gotta be pink
[00:37:16] yeah nice well
[00:37:18] this again we're going
[00:37:20] right to the heart of what makes
[00:37:22] any any organization
[00:37:24] or sport successful right is
[00:37:26] image what what are people
[00:37:28] seeing how how desirable
[00:37:30] is it to be a part of that
[00:37:32] Fooze Ball has been missing
[00:37:34] that for so long man right yeah
[00:37:36] there's so many Fooze Ball clubs
[00:37:38] in America and
[00:37:40] you know I also have the club program
[00:37:42] right DFW Fooze Ball Club Buffalo
[00:37:44] Fooze Ball right I've got
[00:37:46] so many that are
[00:37:48] in my club program where they
[00:37:50] they get the same benefits as well so if you buy
[00:37:52] a DFW Fooze Ball Club Jersey portion
[00:37:54] of the sale goes to the DFW Fooze Ball Club
[00:37:56] interesting well we're
[00:37:58] going to have to talk about that when it comes
[00:38:00] to the 5.8 I mean right I'm a little biased there
[00:38:02] but yeah
[00:38:04] as a club
[00:38:06] that's part of that that's certainly something we want
[00:38:08] to talk about and
[00:38:10] we can talk about that later
[00:38:12] but it's certainly something we can
[00:38:14] we can discuss so
[00:38:16] okay here's
[00:38:18] here's the here's the hard question
[00:38:20] five years down the line
[00:38:22] what are your expectations for
[00:38:24] Fooze Ball Sports Network
[00:38:26] I anticipate
[00:38:28] more live streaming
[00:38:30] okay more merchandise
[00:38:32] okay more tournaments
[00:38:34] okay and more players
[00:38:36] so
[00:38:38] you've got a game plan I do clearly
[00:38:40] clearly I spend way too much time
[00:38:42] thinking and working on it
[00:38:44] but yes there's a game plan
[00:38:46] and so
[00:38:48] this is again if there's anything
[00:38:50] we in part of the media
[00:38:52] Fooze Talk Live and Fooze Ball Radio
[00:38:54] let us know
[00:38:56] okay I will do that keep us in the loop
[00:38:58] there's big news coming nice
[00:39:00] okay I just I don't want to
[00:39:02] let the cat out of the bag before
[00:39:04] the bag is secured okay
[00:39:06] if that makes sense well maybe we can do
[00:39:08] like a I don't know we can do a quick
[00:39:10] online meet
[00:39:12] we can do a follow up on that cool
[00:39:14] well now see you raise the expectations
[00:39:16] yeah yeah I want
[00:39:18] to I want Fooze Ball Sports Network to be
[00:39:20] everything Fooze Ball
[00:39:22] nice everything nice okay
[00:39:24] every aspect everything
[00:39:26] yeah the experience all of it
[00:39:28] there's a slugline right there
[00:39:30] Fooze Ball Sports Network
[00:39:32] the experience everything yes
[00:39:34] see how that works
[00:39:36] yeah absolutely
[00:39:38] trademark it right exactly
[00:39:40] now it's it's uh it's funny
[00:39:42] because there there's a
[00:39:44] I've done a lot of copywriting as a
[00:39:46] as a broadcast I know and I keep trying to use you
[00:39:48] for copyrighting I just always forget
[00:39:50] but that's how easy it is to come up
[00:39:52] the slugline oh the experience
[00:39:54] yeah um but no
[00:39:56] it's it we are so
[00:39:58] overjoyed to have you doing
[00:40:00] what you're doing man keep it going
[00:40:02] keep it going and you know what
[00:40:04] there's always going to be like everything
[00:40:06] people do that's worthwhile it ain't easy
[00:40:08] no it's not so
[00:40:10] we appreciate the time and the effort
[00:40:12] what you do with your own
[00:40:14] personal time your own personal finances
[00:40:16] and your your passion man
[00:40:18] yeah it's
[00:40:20] well thank you it's commendable thank you
[00:40:22] yeah cool well thanks for joining us
[00:40:24] on Fooze Ball
[00:40:26] radio on the road this is again
[00:40:28] a feature we do whenever we get out to tournaments
[00:40:30] which we could do we hope
[00:40:32] to do more often that's sure something
[00:40:34] we're thinking about when I have tournaments you can definitely be there
[00:40:36] nice very cool
[00:40:38] we're um we're always thinking of
[00:40:40] new concepts here too so if you got any ideas
[00:40:42] man just don't steal
[00:40:44] my good day foosball
[00:40:46] don't do it
[00:40:48] it's okay yeah maybe
[00:40:50] maybe you can join me for one of those episodes
[00:40:52] or something love to love to it's
[00:40:54] on youtube it's on my youtube channel the
[00:40:56] one singular episode that I did it was
[00:40:58] it was not done very well but it was fun doing
[00:41:00] dude you got to start somewhere yeah
[00:41:02] right good day foosball look for it
[00:41:04] youtube and uh
[00:41:06] we're going to continue uh talking to people here
[00:41:08] on the road with foosball radio on the road
[00:41:10] and of course uh foos talk live that
[00:41:12] uh unfortunately the episode
[00:41:14] that we did is not available
[00:41:16] yet as a download for
[00:41:18] for podcast but it will be soon so
[00:41:20] uh stay tuned uh but
[00:41:22] yeah again Jason Wicks
[00:41:24] from the DFW
[00:41:26] and foosball sports network
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