FoosTalk Live | Ep 236 | Ryan Moore on 2025 and the WFT

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[00:02:01] And here we are, live on Foos Talk Live yet again.

[00:02:04] I'm Tom Robinson.

[00:02:05] Welcome to episode number 236.

[00:02:08] Just a little bit away from the end of 2024, just about to launch into 2025.

[00:02:13] And we are excited, to say the least.

[00:02:15] Can I say pumped?

[00:02:16] I guess you could say that, too.

[00:02:18] At any rate, we're about to dive in.

[00:02:21] And it's looking really good for 2025 so far.

[00:02:25] And, of course, if you're going to talk about foosball, one of the best things you've got to do, of course, is talk to somebody who loves the game as much.

[00:02:32] And that would be Randy Raposo.

[00:02:34] Hello, Randy, from the great state of Alabama.

[00:02:35] What's happening, man?

[00:02:37] I don't know.

[00:02:37] Who is that?

[00:02:38] There's a fourth person in here.

[00:02:39] I don't know who they are.

[00:02:40] I don't know.

[00:02:41] Hmm.

[00:02:42] I'm not sure.

[00:02:42] Oh, that's my mom.

[00:02:43] That's your mom?

[00:02:44] Quit playing.

[00:02:45] Quit playing.

[00:02:45] Quit playing.

[00:02:48] I would wonder if there's a dog in here.

[00:02:51] And that's my dog that just passed away, but it's Mary.

[00:02:54] Mom, what are you doing?

[00:02:54] She's trying to listen to it.

[00:02:55] And she came into the Discord instead of coming onto the lake.

[00:02:58] Let's go.

[00:02:58] That's okay.

[00:02:59] Even better.

[00:02:59] You know what, Tom?

[00:03:00] We're done for that.

[00:03:01] I'm here.

[00:03:02] I'm here.

[00:03:03] Let's go.

[00:03:04] We got the man here.

[00:03:05] Let's just do it.

[00:03:05] Let's go.

[00:03:06] So tonight is a special night because we are saying goodbye to 2024 and hello to 2025.

[00:03:13] And this next year is, to say the least, is going to be exciting.

[00:03:18] I think that's kind of an understatement.

[00:03:19] And I think that's kind of a good thing.

[00:03:20] Mostly because of the fact that Mary Moore, who's with us tonight, who's just recently retired, has passed the baton on to her son, Ryan.

[00:03:29] Who's rebranding what used to be the IFP.

[00:03:31] Is now going to be the, well, the World Foosball Tour.

[00:03:36] And of course, Ryan is here with us tonight.

[00:03:38] So Ryan, hey, thanks for joining us, dude.

[00:03:40] It's an absolute pleasure to have you back once again on Foodstalk Live.

[00:03:44] What's up, man?

[00:03:46] What's up?

[00:03:47] Working.

[00:03:48] Yeah, working?

[00:03:49] All right.

[00:03:49] I'll bet you are.

[00:03:51] Yeah, on top every day all day.

[00:03:52] So like I noticed before the holidays, you took a long cruise with your wife.

[00:03:58] Saw a couple of pretty cool pictures when you guys were cruising.

[00:04:01] Was that just to decompress before the big rush?

[00:04:06] No, we had that planned since January of 2024.

[00:04:10] No kidding.

[00:04:11] Yeah, we got this cool little thing that helps take the stress off throughout the whole year.

[00:04:18] We always have something to look forward to.

[00:04:20] So me and her typically, in the beginning of the year, we try to book a trip for just me and her to go somewhere.

[00:04:25] And it's been a cruise the last two years.

[00:04:27] One was down to the British Virgin Islands.

[00:04:30] This one was down to Cabo and the, you know, Mexican Riviera or whatever.

[00:04:34] Right.

[00:04:36] Or just the west side of New Mexico.

[00:04:38] And so, yeah, basically, we try to always have something to look forward to.

[00:04:44] That way you almost feel like you're never stuck.

[00:04:46] Otherwise, there's times where if you don't have a trip planned or something fun to look forward to, you kind of just go,

[00:04:51] oh, I hate being in this spot or it's too much work or blah, blah, blah.

[00:04:55] I mean, I'm fine with it.

[00:04:56] But, yeah, we try to have something to look forward to that sound like straight fun.

[00:05:02] It just relieves the stress.

[00:05:04] Right.

[00:05:05] Oh, yeah.

[00:05:05] Absolutely.

[00:05:05] I agree.

[00:05:06] I have something to look forward to the kickoff at the end of January.

[00:05:09] There you go.

[00:05:12] Exactly.

[00:05:13] That's going to be, I would say, for everybody who's a foosball player who's interested to see how this is going to go or going to be there.

[00:05:20] You know, it just seems to me like last year the tour kickoff was spectacular.

[00:05:26] It was a great event.

[00:05:28] And there was a lot of people there.

[00:05:30] What do you think?

[00:05:31] What do you think we're going to have a bigger turnout this year?

[00:05:36] He's got a call.

[00:05:37] A call?

[00:05:37] Give him a second.

[00:05:39] Yeah.

[00:05:39] No, no, no, no.

[00:05:40] Sorry.

[00:05:40] It's Mom.

[00:05:41] I'm trying to figure out why.

[00:05:42] She's like, I clicked out of it.

[00:05:43] I'm like, yeah, no, you've got to leave.

[00:05:44] Well, she's kick her out.

[00:05:46] You just kick her out of it.

[00:05:49] Just kidding, Mom.

[00:05:50] Love you.

[00:05:51] It's just I keep looking at this dog, and I know Z, he passed away, and it's kind of messing with my mentality here.

[00:05:56] Oh, oh.

[00:05:57] Oh, gotcha.

[00:05:59] So your question was about TKO, and you were asking me if we were expecting a larger attendance?

[00:06:05] Right.

[00:06:07] Yeah.

[00:06:07] I mean, you know, nobody knows, right?

[00:06:10] Yeah.

[00:06:10] Yeah.

[00:06:11] You know, year over year, everything changes.

[00:06:14] The economy changes.

[00:06:14] People's views change.

[00:06:16] I would hope so, but if it doesn't, it's not to me.

[00:06:20] Like, it's actually not going to be an indicator at all of the success of this tour for the year.

[00:06:24] Yeah.

[00:06:25] You know, let's say we got the same number, even less as last year.

[00:06:30] After people start sharing what happens at a World Foosball Tour event now, it's just going to be toxic.

[00:06:36] I mean, it's going to spread so fast, and so many people are going to see it and go, well, hell, I need to get to one of those.

[00:06:41] So Vegas, that one is the one we should be keeping our eye on the most.

[00:06:46] I haven't really got a whole lot of the vision of the World Foosball Tour out to the world yet.

[00:06:52] So I think as things start progressing, we're going to have a lot more traction building up.

[00:07:00] But, yeah, I think TKO, in my opinion, should be bigger.

[00:07:04] You just never know.

[00:07:06] Well, since you bring up Vegas, and I actually just texted your mom a link to the show to her phone.

[00:07:13] So if she wants to bang out of here and click the link, it'll take her right to where she can watch on Twitch if she wants to do that.

[00:07:20] She's fine.

[00:07:21] I know the dog's messing with me.

[00:07:24] Can you not boot her, Tom?

[00:07:26] I mean, I could.

[00:07:28] Unfortunately, I would interrupt the flow because I'm connected to another software program.

[00:07:33] We'll just share my mom's dog.

[00:07:37] So for the Hall of Fame, have you guys figured out who the inductees are yet, or is that not something you can disclose?

[00:07:46] Yeah, so I just kind of inherited the – not even the responsibility of the Hall of Fame.

[00:07:53] It was never under fully my mom's responsibility.

[00:07:57] But I inherited the understanding of what the responsibility is.

[00:08:02] And it's a bit out of my hands at the moment.

[00:08:05] I do have a team of people working on it.

[00:08:07] We should be probably after New Year's sending out the final – oh, there goes Mama – sending out the final ballot to have that voted on by the Hall of Fame members.

[00:08:19] And then we'll have those decided.

[00:08:22] But it looks like from the last time we talked, we're going to induct two this year.

[00:08:27] And we're going to kind of slow it down a bit.

[00:08:29] Oh.

[00:08:29] Because we think that's a better flow number year over year just to have two going in.

[00:08:35] Because, you know, there's – we'll increase that over time as we get more and more players.

[00:08:41] But what – the way I kind of brought it up to the members was kind of like how many new Hall of Famers are being created every year.

[00:08:48] Right.

[00:08:48] And you really should not have more than that number or else.

[00:08:52] You'll literally run out of people to put in there.

[00:08:54] Yeah.

[00:08:54] And so right now we're probably at two or less Hall of Fame members a year that are being created.

[00:09:01] What –

[00:09:02] You know, so –

[00:09:03] So just for the edification of people who don't understand how the process goes, what is the requirement, minimum requirement for someone to be admitted into the Hall of Fames?

[00:09:12] Is that a standard?

[00:09:14] Yeah, it is.

[00:09:15] You've got to be over 40 years old.

[00:09:17] Okay.

[00:09:17] Number one.

[00:09:18] You have to have won a world title or won several national titles.

[00:09:23] Got it.

[00:09:24] You have to have contributed.

[00:09:25] These are different options.

[00:09:27] Like, you could have – if you won a world title, that could qualify you and you're over 40.

[00:09:30] You won several national titles and you're over 40, that could qualify you.

[00:09:34] If you've done something big for the game, let's say you created a brand new shot like the Eurotow or the person that created the snake or a person that created a new defense that revolutionized the game, that could get you in.

[00:10:15] Mm-hmm.

[00:10:18] Which is something I'd like to try to change a bit.

[00:10:21] I'd like to – there would be a little bit of investigation into the past to see maybe who is a world champion that isn't on there that's over 40.

[00:10:28] Because let's just say I'm 40 years old and I'm not going to go to you guys, hey, guys, you need to nominate me.

[00:10:33] It's just not – and most people, I think, are similar to that.

[00:10:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:10:36] So it would be good to get a better populated list of people that are actually potential to do that.

[00:10:43] But it is quite the undertaking because then you get a nominated person.

[00:10:47] You have to create a biography for them.

[00:10:48] You have to find up all their results of all time in which those are scattered throughout all of the internet.

[00:10:55] You have to have somebody write up something on them because not everybody knows everybody.

[00:11:00] And that's just one person.

[00:11:02] And then you do that times every new nominee every year.

[00:11:06] And then the Hall of Fame members get them all put in front of them and say, hey, here's the eligible people.

[00:11:11] Make your selections based on that.

[00:11:14] Oh, ouch.

[00:11:15] So if there's like four or five nominees, that's a lot of work for somebody to possibly not even get inducted.

[00:11:23] Yeah, well, see, the thing is, is the Hall of Fame committee – and Steve Biney is the big one behind this.

[00:11:29] He's always the one that has a big help in there.

[00:11:31] So Biney helps gather all this information, write the bios or find people to write the bios, get the information.

[00:11:38] And then, yeah, he compiles a list.

[00:11:40] And then that list gets put in front of everybody.

[00:11:42] And then you have to kind of sift through it, see who you think is the most deserving person to go in, and you vote on it.

[00:11:48] And then every single person that's in the Hall of Fame can vote.

[00:11:51] Not all of them do because a lot of people are just out of touch, out of the game, or just choose not to.

[00:11:57] Whatever the reason may be.

[00:11:59] So then you have a portion of the people that vote, still quite a few, still a lot of them.

[00:12:03] So there's a lot of people that are voting on this.

[00:12:06] And then you tally it up, and whoever gets the most votes wins, gets in the Hall of Fame.

[00:12:11] Kind of like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

[00:12:13] And why the hell isn't the Doobie Brothers in there?

[00:12:16] What's going on with that?

[00:12:17] I don't get it.

[00:12:18] Hall of Fame in Vegas.

[00:12:20] Is Vegas going to be long-term?

[00:12:23] I know you're going to be moving things around.

[00:12:25] Is Vegas going to be long-term?

[00:12:27] Yeah, I know.

[00:12:28] So, okay.

[00:12:30] The short answer is yes.

[00:12:32] Okay.

[00:12:32] The longer answer is Vegas is getting increasingly hard to host an event in.

[00:12:37] And so I didn't have enough time in 2025 to try to see if there's other venues that are possible.

[00:12:45] But I do in 2026.

[00:12:47] And what I'm learning very quickly is our options are extremely limited.

[00:12:55] Unless we wanted to double everyone's entry fees and people pay an extra $50 a night per room night.

[00:13:03] Because it's the most expensive market to host an event in America that I know of.

[00:13:08] Maybe there's a place like New York City downtown or something crazy.

[00:13:11] But there's a reason why it's been at the Golden Nugget and at Westgate year over year over year.

[00:13:16] And the reason is every other venue would cost my mother money to host it at.

[00:13:21] Sure.

[00:13:23] We'd lose money.

[00:13:24] And who wants to put in?

[00:13:25] I mean, I see how much time goes into these things.

[00:13:27] And I may be putting in even more time because I'm like building a brand, building, building, building, and buying and all sorts of crap.

[00:13:33] But had I just put in the work that she put in and her team put in?

[00:13:37] Yeah.

[00:13:38] I mean, I get it.

[00:13:39] You know, she did it for the love of the game.

[00:13:40] I get it.

[00:13:41] I do get it 100%.

[00:13:42] You know, so.

[00:13:45] Yeah, that tournament, you know, with it being at Westgate, it allows for a bit of money to be made for the tour.

[00:14:20] Mm-hmm.

[00:14:21] A lot of, you know, the stuff we're going to be talking about is based around that.

[00:14:25] It's based around sustainability where no matter what happens, we can still continue playing foosball.

[00:14:30] Okay.

[00:14:30] During your announcement last week on Facebook, there were three things you touched on.

[00:14:37] And if we, you know, not to reiterate, but if we could go back and take a look at those aspects of what happened.

[00:14:44] Hey, we've got somebody else on the show now.

[00:14:47] Yeah.

[00:14:47] Really quick.

[00:14:49] I mean, what's a hug and a kiss?

[00:14:50] I'm going to miss.

[00:14:52] Love you.

[00:14:53] Mr. Travis.

[00:14:54] All right.

[00:14:55] Go.

[00:14:55] So, babe, can you, like, can you put a leash on these kids?

[00:15:00] That's Calvin.

[00:15:01] Okay.

[00:15:01] Open the leaf up.

[00:15:02] All right.

[00:15:03] I love you.

[00:15:04] Bye.

[00:15:06] Family first.

[00:15:07] You know.

[00:15:07] Can you say that again?

[00:15:09] Just tugging at our heartstrings here, man.

[00:15:11] This is, you know, this is truly a family life.

[00:15:14] This is great.

[00:15:15] So, okay.

[00:15:17] You touched on three main points in your announcement last week on Facebook.

[00:15:22] One of which was points.

[00:15:24] Another was sponsorships.

[00:15:25] And let's see.

[00:15:26] What was the other?

[00:15:28] I'm trying to think the third major point.

[00:15:31] But I would like to talk, I think, first of all, about sponsorships.

[00:15:36] And what is it?

[00:15:37] You mentioned a couple.

[00:15:39] You name dropped a couple of energy drinks, I believe.

[00:15:43] Can you elaborate on what you're talking about when it comes to sponsorships?

[00:15:48] Yeah.

[00:15:49] I want to make this extremely clear because I have a lot of people.

[00:15:51] The first thing they do is they say, Ryan, how are you going to get sponsors into foosball?

[00:15:56] I say, well, first thing I'm going to do is not even think about them.

[00:16:00] Okay.

[00:16:00] And this is the truth.

[00:16:01] They are not even on my mind.

[00:16:03] Like, I have not, there's not been one bit of me that has said, I need to go find sponsors.

[00:16:08] You know why?

[00:16:08] Because I don't have anything that's sponsorable.

[00:16:11] Okay.

[00:16:11] All I have is an idea.

[00:16:13] I don't actually have something that I can go to them and say, hey, look at this.

[00:16:17] You want to get involved?

[00:16:19] Because I'm a business guy, right?

[00:16:20] So, I'm not going to go to an investor and ask them to invest in a business model that I don't believe in.

[00:16:26] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:27] In its current state right now, foosball is not sponsorable.

[00:16:30] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:31] What we're going to create is going to be creating a sponsorable support.

[00:16:35] A product.

[00:16:36] So, once we actually put the money out there, we create something that people are going to want to get behind.

[00:16:42] Then I will reach out to people and say, hey, you want to sponsor this?

[00:16:47] So, the reason why I name dropped a couple big energy drinks, Monster being the main one, I actually had an encounter with somebody.

[00:16:54] It was funny.

[00:16:54] On the way home from Louisiana State, I was wearing my custom foods gear shoes Isabel made for me, which are sick.

[00:17:03] I don't know if you guys have seen them floating around there or not, but they're sick.

[00:17:11] Yeah.

[00:17:13] She's like, oh, I'm making sure they weren't Monster shoes because they look like Monster shoes.

[00:17:17] And I work for them, you know.

[00:17:19] And I was like, oh, really?

[00:17:20] That's really cool.

[00:17:21] I said, yeah, yeah.

[00:17:23] I was like, so what do you do with Monster?

[00:17:26] And she's like, I'm the senior regional director of marketing for Monster.

[00:17:30] And I said, oh, that's really cool.

[00:17:32] I said, you know what's funny?

[00:17:33] I said, I was planning on reaching out to you guys in about a year.

[00:17:36] She said, really?

[00:17:37] What for?

[00:17:38] And I said, I'm creating the World Foosball Tour.

[00:17:40] We're taking our existing foosball tour that we have in America.

[00:17:43] We're rebranding it, recreating the image of it and getting it going.

[00:17:47] And I was going to reach out to you guys in about a year.

[00:17:50] And so she said, oh, that's awesome.

[00:17:52] We're always trying to find new things to get behind and get into.

[00:17:55] And I said, yeah.

[00:17:56] I said, you know what?

[00:17:57] I said, you know, she's like, well, let me get your information.

[00:17:59] So we exchanged contacts.

[00:18:01] And we texted a few times since then.

[00:18:02] And, you know, I showed her, hey, check out the website.

[00:18:04] It's like first gen.

[00:18:05] We just literally launched it.

[00:18:07] And she's like, well, when can we talk more about this?

[00:18:09] I said, give me a little bit of time.

[00:18:12] Let me perfect this before you show it to your team.

[00:18:15] Let me get a couple of tournaments under the belt and actually get some stuff to actually present to you guys.

[00:18:21] So, I mean, honestly, like the earliest I'd probably pull them in would be post Vegas.

[00:18:27] And maybe, you know, maybe have them come to the world championships.

[00:18:31] Because they literally, she said, she's like, well, we could have a team easily go there and just hand out free energy drinks and kind of walk around and check things out.

[00:18:38] And I said, let's wait until later this year.

[00:18:41] You know, and I said, you know, I'll keep in touch with you, though, throughout the year.

[00:18:45] Because, again, I'm not going to ask them to get into something until it's ready.

[00:18:50] And it's not going to be ready day one.

[00:18:52] It's going to be a major jump visually, a TKO.

[00:18:56] It's going to be a major jump visually and mechanically in Vegas.

[00:19:02] But the vision will come together by worlds.

[00:19:05] And we'll see exactly kind of where my head's been at.

[00:19:08] A lot of this stuff I can't even do because I don't have content.

[00:19:11] I have no content.

[00:19:12] There's not been somebody running around with cameras and pictures for years.

[00:19:16] And that's the first thing we're doing is we're focusing on content.

[00:19:19] We're going to have literally cameramen at every single major running around all day long every day.

[00:19:23] And people taking pictures all day long every day.

[00:19:26] It's the most important thing for the growth of foosball.

[00:19:28] So when it comes to sponsors, we have to give people something that's sponsorable.

[00:19:34] And once we have something that's sponsorable, we can then go get sponsors.

[00:19:40] Now, I cannot release any more information.

[00:19:44] But I can't believe how fast this shit is happening.

[00:19:47] I did not want sponsors.

[00:19:49] And I have some stuff on the table I cannot disclose yet.

[00:19:53] But it's fucking crazy.

[00:19:54] Nice.

[00:19:55] It's like, how did this happen?

[00:19:56] How is this happening right now?

[00:19:58] I haven't even presented anything.

[00:20:00] So there could be something that hits the shelf in the next couple weeks.

[00:20:04] Could be.

[00:20:04] No guarantees.

[00:20:05] Could be something that hits the shelf in the next couple weeks that people go, you know, make us all scratch our head.

[00:20:11] How the hell did this happen?

[00:20:12] Sweet.

[00:20:13] That is sweet.

[00:20:14] We'll see.

[00:20:15] We'll see.

[00:20:15] That's awesome.

[00:20:16] Nothing's ever for sure.

[00:20:17] But there's a lot of people that I'm talking to that just truly love foosball and understand the positive impacts it gives to people.

[00:20:27] And they're wanting to get behind it.

[00:20:28] And these people are, you know, capable of doing anything that makes sense.

[00:20:33] And I'm only going to spend people's money if it makes sense.

[00:20:36] You know what I mean?

[00:20:36] I'm only going to take in sponsorship if I can utilize it.

[00:20:39] I'm not going to take it to put it in my pocket.

[00:20:41] Basic ROI.

[00:20:41] You know, I don't need it.

[00:20:42] So you want to illustrate ROI to these people.

[00:20:45] You know, what is their return on their investment?

[00:20:48] What are they going to get?

[00:20:49] Well, that's why content is so important.

[00:20:51] So let's say, like Clay.

[00:20:53] Clay and his team is already, I mean, compared to everybody else, they're crushing it.

[00:20:56] And he's doing great.

[00:20:57] His videos are actually visually pleasing.

[00:21:00] Yes.

[00:21:00] You can easily understand what's going on.

[00:21:03] The man's getting millions of views a month.

[00:21:06] And he's deservingly getting it.

[00:21:08] And that is the true.

[00:21:10] That's the secret right there.

[00:21:11] You know, leader.

[00:21:12] And what is the goal of actually getting sponsors?

[00:21:16] So if I go to a sponsor and say I work with Clay.

[00:21:18] I mean, I am working with Clay.

[00:21:20] Clay is our guy for the media booth.

[00:21:23] Right.

[00:21:23] And, you know, it's going to be streamed under the World Foosball Tour.

[00:21:27] But Modern Foos is going to stay alive and well.

[00:21:30] You're going to see their logo throughout the tournament room.

[00:21:33] But he's also going to be helping us with the World Foosball Tours websites.

[00:21:37] And not websites, but social media and stuff.

[00:21:39] And the goal is just overall clicks.

[00:21:40] How many views and how many hits can we get a sponsor throughout time?

[00:21:48] So if I go to a sponsor and say, hey, look.

[00:21:49] Between all platforms, we're getting 20 million views a month.

[00:21:52] Okay.

[00:21:53] So we're getting 20 million views.

[00:21:54] You guys give me, I don't know, a penny a view.

[00:21:58] That comes up to $200,000 a month if they gave me a penny a view.

[00:22:02] Let's say a tenth of a cent.

[00:22:03] That's still $20,000 a month.

[00:22:04] Right?

[00:22:05] So we can say a half a cent.

[00:22:06] You know, that's $100,000 a month.

[00:22:07] That's $1.2 million a year in sponsorship.

[00:22:10] But that's what it's going to take for a – it's all about how can I actually get your brand out there for you to actually want to give it to me.

[00:22:16] And they want to be able to say, I like them.

[00:22:19] I like what they believe in.

[00:22:20] I like the way they look.

[00:22:21] And my logo would look great right there.

[00:22:23] And we have the capabilities being able to take videos and actually, you know, with our network.

[00:22:29] And we could – when we present them a deal, we'll present them monster everywhere.

[00:22:33] And even though it wasn't there, they can see exactly what it would look like with monster in all these positions throughout the finals area and stuff and on the floor.

[00:22:41] And it's like, here's what it could look like.

[00:22:42] They're going to be like, oh, shit.

[00:22:43] Here's how many views you're going to get, you know?

[00:22:45] Oh, shit, you know?

[00:22:46] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:47] This is the kind – this is the way it happens.

[00:22:50] But it's the chicken and the egg.

[00:22:53] It's the cart and the horse.

[00:22:54] Who's going to stick the money out and have – you know, who's going to be able to stick the quarter million, half million, three-quarters of a million dollars out to actually make this happen?

[00:23:03] And, you know, there were some people along the way that were willing to do it, but they kind of geared it the wrong way.

[00:23:09] You know, they – you know, it's – it just wasn't done properly when it comes to the people that were sticking money in back in the day.

[00:23:16] So – and my mom did it for a living.

[00:23:19] You know, she did it for a living.

[00:23:20] She did it for the love of sport.

[00:23:22] And if I'd be doing this for a living, then foosball wouldn't be growing either.

[00:23:25] But my goal is I'm not doing this for a living.

[00:23:27] I have a living.

[00:23:28] You know, I have my other companies.

[00:23:29] You know, I have my other goals and assets that are creating money over time.

[00:23:34] So my goal is to never make foosball a funding thing.

[00:23:38] Maybe I make a little bit of money off it, but the goal is just to, like, let it just, you know, self-digest its own capital to keep growing for five years or so.

[00:23:47] Maybe I get a paycheck at the end.

[00:23:48] Maybe the company's worth something at some point.

[00:23:51] But if not, I lose some money.

[00:23:54] But you know what the worst part about it would be if I didn't do this?

[00:23:56] When I would be 60, 65, 70 years old, you know, and I went through life, and I didn't give that a shot.

[00:24:03] I knew I had the capital.

[00:24:07] I knew I had the business mindset, and I knew I had the energy to do it, and I didn't do it.

[00:24:11] And that's why I decided to make this decision with my mom earlier this year because we floated it for a couple years.

[00:24:17] And I was just like, the thought of me having the regret at the end of my life knowing that I didn't do something when I knew I had the tools to do it was the reason why I was like, all right, I'm doing it.

[00:24:25] I don't even care.

[00:24:26] I know it's going to cost me money because I'm going to put so much energy towards it instead of actually something that's going to make me money.

[00:24:31] It's going to cost me, like, millions of dollars over my life.

[00:24:34] But at least, you know, do something that I'm really passionate about.

[00:24:37] You know what I mean?

[00:24:38] So – and I enjoy it, and I know it's the right call.

[00:24:41] So I'm super stoked about it.

[00:24:43] Yeah, man.

[00:24:44] That was a long story about how sponsorship got into life goals.

[00:24:48] That's perfect.

[00:24:49] That's perfect.

[00:24:50] Oh, that's – dude, look, my parents had a business.

[00:24:54] My dad's only regret when he sold his business was I wish I would have started sooner.

[00:24:57] Yeah.

[00:24:58] That's it.

[00:24:59] You know?

[00:24:59] So – well, look, I got a bunch of questions I want to dig in with you, man.

[00:25:04] And one of the points that Tom had brought up was the points, right?

[00:25:09] So – and I got just – I want to go kind of a couple layers deep with the points.

[00:25:15] You had made an announcement about not necessarily a reset, but giving players the option to bump down masters and pros and bumping down.

[00:25:25] And then even, like, transparency with the system.

[00:25:29] And basically, like, you know, the old system, I don't really think there's anything wrong with it.

[00:25:36] I just think there's a little bit of a lack of transparency to say the least.

[00:25:41] Are you going to change the way players are gaining and losing points?

[00:25:44] Is the accumulation going to change?

[00:25:46] Or, like, what's – like, basically, what's going on with the points, man?

[00:25:51] Well, to be honest with you, I didn't even know what the point system was until I decided to take over the tour.

[00:25:55] And I was like, well, better learn this and figure out.

[00:25:58] So I actually had a crash course over the last several months to understand the point system entirely, all the way down to, you know, everything.

[00:26:05] And I'm a very analytical numbers kind of guy, so it was right up my realm when I started thinking about, like, scenario-based stuff.

[00:26:13] And do you understand the point system?

[00:26:15] You want me to give you a 30,000-foot view?

[00:26:17] Please.

[00:26:18] So I see a little bit.

[00:26:22] So it's basically all the players in an event, their points get put into a pool, and then you get seeded.

[00:26:29] And then if you finish above your seed, you get eight points for every spot above your seed.

[00:26:33] And you lose eight points for every spot below your seed.

[00:26:37] And then if you finish top five, there's bonus points in bigger events.

[00:26:40] It's top seven, top ten.

[00:26:42] But the thing is, how do you figure this out?

[00:26:45] Where do the numbers come from?

[00:26:47] Make it make sense.

[00:26:48] Yeah.

[00:26:48] Yeah, yeah.

[00:26:49] So what you said is exactly right.

[00:26:51] So instead of – what you said is correct.

[00:26:55] Like, you have a seed.

[00:26:56] Let's say you're 15th seed.

[00:26:57] We actually spelled this out on our website, and we released it.

[00:27:01] But again, we're going to make one slight tweak, and we're going to make it public.

[00:27:05] But let's say you start 15th seed.

[00:27:07] That means that you should finish at 13th through 16th, which is on the loser's bracket.

[00:27:11] That means that's where you should finish if you were seeded properly.

[00:27:15] So if you finish 9th through 12th, you gain eight points.

[00:27:18] If you finish 7th, you gain another eight points.

[00:27:21] Instead of 6th, another eight points.

[00:27:22] Same thing and vice versa.

[00:27:24] For every tier, rank tier you place behind you, it's eight points.

[00:27:28] So it's not like if you place 16th and you – well, it's not like if you place – if you're 9th through 12th and you place 12th and you place 17th, you're losing, you know, five times eight.

[00:27:40] No, it's two times eight because it's two tiers, okay?

[00:27:43] Two brackets, so to speak.

[00:27:45] So what that is is that is – let's just say there was never ranks, like, going up and down.

[00:27:52] That would actually be almost like a perfect system if you think about it long term because it's – you're only gaining and losing.

[00:27:59] It keeps you correctly ordered within your rank, right?

[00:28:02] Because you're gaining and losing based on where you're at.

[00:28:04] So it correctly orders it.

[00:28:05] But in that system also, you can't gain – you can't go up.

[00:28:09] You can't rank up.

[00:28:10] You can't go to the next level, right?

[00:28:12] So that's where the bonus points comes in, okay?

[00:28:15] So you have C points, and then you have bonus points.

[00:28:18] And the way bonus points are calculated is you take the total sum of all points in that rank.

[00:28:26] So in rookie doubles, all players' points come in and get added together.

[00:28:31] Let's say it's 100,000 points.

[00:28:33] Then every single division based on – it's a throttling mechanism based on how fast people should move up or should not move up has a percentage dedicated to that.

[00:28:43] So let's just say for simple terms, 1%.

[00:28:46] So 1% of that 100,000 points are bonus points.

[00:28:50] So you have 1,000 bonus points to distribute.

[00:28:53] And you get that distributed over the top six seats.

[00:28:56] And it's heavier on first than it is for fifth, sixth.

[00:28:59] So it's like 40%, 30%.

[00:29:01] You know what I mean?

[00:29:02] It has – it's like 35%.

[00:29:04] It's delegated down, right?

[00:29:06] Yeah.

[00:29:06] So the only real adjustments that we may make to this system is the throttling of those bonus points.

[00:29:15] So maybe instead of 1%, it's a half percent for amateurs because they're moving up too fast.

[00:29:19] Like we're looking at the historicals, and it's like you place top – you know, you get top three twice.

[00:29:28] And all of a sudden you're an expert.

[00:29:29] And people go, well, wait a second.

[00:29:30] I never even want it.

[00:29:31] How am I an expert?

[00:29:32] So – and historically speaking, you know, there's no magic wand that you can wave to have it all figured out day one.

[00:29:41] So there was a growing pains that IFP and the Tor went through over time with the system to figure out what are the proper numbers to be given people in the bonus points.

[00:29:51] The C points was perfect.

[00:29:53] Like that system, in theory, works perfect.

[00:29:56] So there was some thottering that happened here.

[00:29:58] So that's where I'm working – first, I want to kind of backtrack just a little bit.

[00:30:03] I'm working with Brandon Moreland on this.

[00:30:05] Me and him are working hand-to-hand because I wanted to have another like-minded person that's analytical, smart, and kind of I wanted to talk it out.

[00:30:15] He's made a lot of really great ideas.

[00:30:17] So I have somebody that we're really talking this out on or agreeing on a lot of things or disagreeing or whatever.

[00:30:22] You know, we're figuring it out, and we figured it out.

[00:30:25] And now we have a points committee, which is Brandon Moreland, Linda Lee, and Kalamos.

[00:30:30] And obviously, Brandon is a seasoned player, master, knows everybody in the game that's a master or pro level, understands what the players want, just like I do.

[00:30:39] We both do, which is for the point system, transparency is the number one thing.

[00:30:43] And then we have Linda Lee, which gives us a bit of the Canadian side of thing, a bit of the female side of thing.

[00:30:49] And another – she's a very fair person.

[00:30:52] Like we all know her as a fair person on and off the table.

[00:30:54] Isn't she an accountant?

[00:30:56] She's an accountant, right?

[00:30:58] You know, I'm sad to say sorry, Linda.

[00:31:00] I don't know.

[00:31:01] I think she is, but I might be wrong too.

[00:31:04] But even if – I mean, I just figured she's a numbers person.

[00:31:07] I believe she's a numbers person.

[00:31:08] Anyway, go ahead.

[00:31:08] I'm sorry.

[00:31:10] And then Kalam, you know, he's an expert in his term pro.

[00:31:13] He's got a lot of – obviously, he's from England, so he knows a lot of the European players, which is one of our biggest weaknesses,

[00:31:20] is the European players coming over, getting underranked and cleaning up, and everybody made him mad.

[00:31:25] So we thought that was a good thing.

[00:31:28] He's also a fair person, and he's not a master.

[00:31:32] So we get somebody down in the expert pro division to kind of be a sounding board on that as well.

[00:31:37] So those are the three people that are going to decide whether or not people get relegated.

[00:31:41] And that's the term we're going to be using, and it's used in soccer.

[00:31:44] Basically, if a team is underperforming and they're in a higher rank, they get relegated.

[00:31:48] Yeah, they get relegated.

[00:31:48] Yeah.

[00:31:49] And so basically that's the word we're using is relegation.

[00:31:54] Like anybody and everybody is open to relegation.

[00:31:57] Shall they have a case that meets the criteria?

[00:32:01] And the criteria is you haven't won your rank or even consistently placed top three and say – let's say you're an expert.

[00:32:10] But it's like, dude, I never won my rank, placed top three in amateur.

[00:32:14] I'm underperforming like crazy and expert.

[00:32:17] This is nuts.

[00:32:17] The point system robbed me.

[00:32:19] I took a couple fifths, sixths, fourths, and thirds, and now I'm an expert.

[00:32:23] Okay?

[00:32:23] And let's say this happened five years ago.

[00:32:25] I mean there's a lot of things that go into this.

[00:32:27] Who were they playing with?

[00:32:28] Who was in the field?

[00:32:29] You know, was there top-rated amateurs?

[00:32:31] I mean there's a lot of things that get tossed around between the points committee to where they ultimately have each vote on yes or no.

[00:32:37] They get relegated down.

[00:32:38] And it's only for singles or doubles.

[00:32:40] So go ahead.

[00:32:42] To be fair.

[00:32:44] And I've had this conversation with people before, right?

[00:32:48] Not everybody wins, man.

[00:32:49] Like I've had people tell me like I want to win.

[00:32:52] I want to win a rookie title before I move up.

[00:32:54] And then I want to win an amateur title before I move up.

[00:32:57] And then I want to win an expert.

[00:32:58] Listen, there are guys that have been playing foosball 30 years and never won crap.

[00:33:02] So if you're good, right?

[00:33:05] I mean if you're a good player and you move up, you move up.

[00:33:07] Just focus on getting better.

[00:33:09] And that brings up another point, another question that I have, right?

[00:33:14] It's actually two points.

[00:33:15] But the incentive to move up.

[00:33:20] And I know you said you were going to address that, right?

[00:33:22] That's a point I wanted to make.

[00:33:23] But this is a question that I have for you.

[00:33:25] And I don't feel sorry for you about this.

[00:33:30] Legitimately, dude.

[00:33:31] I feel like this is going to be an issue for you.

[00:33:33] And I want to know how you're going to address it, right?

[00:33:35] But I've already had people asking me, kind of complaining about it.

[00:33:40] But rookies getting paid, right?

[00:33:43] And I know there's people listening.

[00:33:45] And they're probably going to be mad at me.

[00:33:47] But I've said it.

[00:33:48] Even when I was a rookie, I don't think rookies should be getting paid.

[00:33:51] I think all the money should be at the top.

[00:33:53] What's the incentive to move up, right?

[00:33:55] And I just know that might be an issue.

[00:34:00] But how are you going to address, you know?

[00:34:04] Because, dude, again, there's so many different ranks.

[00:34:07] And we're really trying to grow the sport.

[00:34:09] Like, dude, I'm going to support you, man.

[00:34:11] I want foosball to grow.

[00:34:12] But, you know, how do we make it, you know, basically consistent throughout and have players develop and move up and want to become better rather than just say, I'm content being a rookie because I'm making money.

[00:34:30] Yeah, two things you had there.

[00:34:33] The first thing I'll touch base on was the, you know, not everybody wins.

[00:34:37] The question becomes for the players if maybe.

[00:34:42] All right.

[00:34:42] Here's a lot of new kids.

[00:34:44] Go get some on, okay?

[00:34:47] You have to go in here.

[00:34:50] I know.

[00:34:51] I love it.

[00:34:53] This brings heart.

[00:34:54] This brings heart to our show, right?

[00:34:57] Seeing the real life.

[00:34:59] This is what we need.

[00:35:00] We need more of this.

[00:35:01] This is my life every day working, bro.

[00:35:03] We are.

[00:35:03] This is love.

[00:35:04] We are so grateful.

[00:35:05] And an interruption.

[00:35:06] We are so grateful for your family.

[00:35:07] That's fine.

[00:35:10] Again, the question becomes if somebody can't win their event, if somebody can't win an amateur event and they're only taking third every now and then, should that qualify them to actually be an expert?

[00:35:23] That's the question that we have to really ask each other, right?

[00:35:26] Because the way that the system originally was created, it made them an expert because they got so many bonus points.

[00:35:33] And if you look at the separation, amateur to expert is only 500 points.

[00:35:37] So when you gain 500, boom, you're an expert.

[00:35:39] Then it's 1,000 points.

[00:35:41] Expert to pro.

[00:35:42] Then it's 2,000 points.

[00:35:44] Pro to master, okay?

[00:35:46] So it's like a ladder.

[00:35:48] And the ladders keep getting bigger and bigger, right?

[00:35:51] So that's the real question for the players that I had to ask myself is, like, if you aren't able to win an amateur event, you're probably not an expert.

[00:36:00] And furthermore, you really, for the sake of people progressing, which is one of the things I'm implementing, you really want an amateur to be damn near dominating or placing top three pretty consistently to be moving up to expert.

[00:36:15] Or placing, let's even say, top five, six every single time.

[00:36:18] I mean, you want them to be consistently placing top up there and maybe even starting to compete just a little bit with the experts before they get to the expert division.

[00:36:28] And I think that's the perfect time.

[00:36:30] If I had a perfect world, that would be the perfect world is they're winning most of the time or even placing top three most of the time in the division.

[00:36:37] And they're just starting to compete with the lower experts.

[00:36:41] That's the perfect time for somebody to move up.

[00:36:43] Because otherwise, if you move up and you feel kind of like, well, man, these amateurs are hard.

[00:36:48] I don't know if I could beat them.

[00:36:50] I'm not quite ready.

[00:36:50] And then you go into it.

[00:36:51] Now you're in a brand.

[00:36:52] You're starting all over again.

[00:36:53] You go to expert.

[00:36:54] Now you're like, God, I couldn't even beat the damn amateurs.

[00:36:58] Screw this.

[00:36:58] I quit.

[00:36:59] You know, I can't.

[00:37:00] Exactly.

[00:37:00] Not everybody has the attack mentality.

[00:37:04] And that's okay, right?

[00:37:07] But that was the first part of your question.

[00:37:12] And that's kind of my stance on it is I think that everybody has kind of a dog in the fight when it comes to that conversation.

[00:37:18] I don't think there's any right or wrong way.

[00:37:20] I think that everybody has some reasoning behind the way they think, which is why we're opening the option for people to get relegated back down if the points committee deems it necessary.

[00:37:30] Right.

[00:37:31] Okay.

[00:37:31] The second part is, is how do you attack people wanting to go up?

[00:37:34] Well, it starts with redefining what it is to be a top player.

[00:37:39] And this is something that's going to naturally happen pretty damn quick when it comes to you're going to want to be a top player.

[00:37:48] And here's the reality of the situation of foosball.

[00:37:53] And I can tell you from personal experience, a lot of people and Randy, I'm sure you also feel this even being a pretty, pretty top player yourself.

[00:38:01] There's a bit of like, when you talk to people and you say, oh yeah, I play foosball.

[00:38:05] There's a bit of this kind of like, call it embarrassment or call it like, not super hardcore for it.

[00:38:12] Well, here's why.

[00:38:13] Because you know the next question is going to be, oh, that's super cool.

[00:38:17] How much?

[00:38:17] I mean, do you make money off that?

[00:38:18] And most people are like, no, no, I just, it's a hobby.

[00:38:23] I just kind of go and I have fun.

[00:38:25] I have a lot of friends.

[00:38:26] I mean, honestly, that's what it is.

[00:38:27] Like this is entertainment at the end of the day.

[00:38:29] Right.

[00:38:29] We're going for entertainment.

[00:38:31] Right.

[00:38:32] So if there was a world in which the top players were sponsored and at the very least, let's say the top 10 master men and the top five master women,

[00:38:43] somebody said, hey, oh, you know, you play foosball.

[00:38:46] And they said, yeah, I play foosball.

[00:38:48] Oh, what do you get from it?

[00:38:49] Well, I get to travel the whole world for free.

[00:38:51] I mean, I get to, you know, I'm sponsored.

[00:38:53] I, you know, I get to go to Vegas every year.

[00:38:55] I get to go to France, you know, every couple of years.

[00:38:58] I get to go to Europe.

[00:38:58] I get to go here.

[00:38:59] And it's, yeah, I get to travel the whole world and it's free, man.

[00:39:01] It's actually really cool.

[00:39:02] Oh, that's awesome.

[00:39:03] And, you know, I play and have fun.

[00:39:05] Even that, if you could have the top 10 people even say that we're in a step in the right direction.

[00:39:10] Okay.

[00:39:10] So you got to redefine.

[00:39:11] What is it like to be a top player?

[00:39:13] Well, I mean, don't get me wrong, man.

[00:39:15] It's cool, but it's financially not quite there yet, right?

[00:39:19] It's always been cool.

[00:39:21] And don't get me wrong.

[00:39:22] Like even me being one of the top three, you know, players for the last decade or two, you know, it's, you know, my income from foosball would be anywhere from eight grand to I think my top earning year.

[00:39:35] I was at like maybe 28 or 30K, maybe more because I didn't track every tournament.

[00:39:40] Okay.

[00:39:41] But you start factoring in expenses and your net on that is still not enough to make a living off of, right?

[00:39:48] Exactly.

[00:39:48] And I'm top three, you know, in the last decade.

[00:39:51] So, but here's the unsung hero about being a top player in foosball.

[00:39:56] You've showed that you literally are the best in the world at something.

[00:40:01] And that means that you have, you're either really smart, you're really dedicated, or you're really passionate about what you do.

[00:40:08] And so the doors just start opening for you.

[00:40:10] And I've said this my whole life.

[00:40:12] I've said, I've been blessed in my life, but I know a big part of it was because I got really good at foosball and people gave me opportunities that I wouldn't have got if I wasn't good at foosball.

[00:40:20] I got out of bad situations in Kentucky with, with, you know, old friends that, you know, I could have went down in the gutter, but I had opportunity to leave.

[00:40:28] And, and I've, I've, to this day now, I mean, literally when I go into business meetings, one of the first thing that comes up is, oh yeah, he's, you know, one of the best players in the world of foosball.

[00:40:38] You know, he was world champion.

[00:40:39] He won the last world, you know, every business meet.

[00:40:41] It's like the first day and it gets brought up.

[00:40:43] And, you know, I always go, yeah, you know, I have fun with it, this and that, blah, blah, blah, you know.

[00:40:47] But what it does is it sets a tone of, of your personality.

[00:40:50] So when you're a top player of foosball, you can own that.

[00:40:55] You can own that.

[00:40:56] And, and, and so that's the unsung hero when it comes to being the top player.

[00:41:02] And I, you know, I don't care what anybody says.

[00:41:05] Everybody's like, oh, you don't get women.

[00:41:06] I'm sorry.

[00:41:07] Look at every top foosball player, bro.

[00:41:08] We all got beautiful women.

[00:41:10] I don't know what you guys are talking about.

[00:41:13] My wife is gorgeous.

[00:41:15] Yeah.

[00:41:16] I don't think it's because I'm the top player.

[00:41:17] I think it's my personality, but.

[00:41:19] Well.

[00:41:22] That's right.

[00:41:23] That's right.

[00:41:24] That's right.

[00:41:25] No, dude.

[00:41:25] Look again, you're a hundred percent.

[00:41:28] Like, dude, again, I tell people, you know, cause you'll be traveling to a tournament on

[00:41:32] a plane.

[00:41:32] Where are you going?

[00:41:33] Here.

[00:41:34] Why?

[00:41:35] I play foosball professionally and they go.

[00:41:37] What?

[00:41:38] This.

[00:41:38] I'm like, yeah.

[00:41:40] Yeah.

[00:41:40] Yeah.

[00:41:41] Oh.

[00:41:42] Oh.

[00:41:43] And I, and I tell them, I love it, man.

[00:41:45] It's, you know, if you look, look it up, man.

[00:41:48] It's crazy.

[00:41:48] It's everywhere.

[00:41:48] You know, some of my best friends in the world, I've, I've met through foosball and,

[00:41:52] um, it foosball has, uh, impacted my life in ways I can never explain.

[00:41:58] But you know, I dude, again, like, I, I think I'm close to cracking the top 100.

[00:42:02] And for me, that's like, dude, that I, I, like I told my wife today, I said, I think

[00:42:07] I might be cracking the top 100.

[00:42:09] She said, what does that mean?

[00:42:10] I said, I might be one of the top 100 tornado players in the, in the country.

[00:42:14] I said, that's.

[00:42:16] I'm proud.

[00:42:17] I'm proud of that, man.

[00:42:18] Like, I'm proud of that.

[00:42:19] Like, I'm, I'm, I love foosball, you know?

[00:42:21] And like I said, thinking those with, with those stories, when you were meeting those people

[00:42:25] and saying it, think if you would have said cornhole, it would all be like, oh, wow.

[00:42:30] That's, that's really cool.

[00:42:31] Yeah.

[00:42:32] Yeah.

[00:42:32] I've seen that on social media.

[00:42:34] I've seen it on ESPN.

[00:42:35] Yep.

[00:42:35] Yeah.

[00:42:35] Yeah.

[00:42:36] What about one of the top, uh, pickleball players?

[00:42:38] Oh man, that's awesome, dude.

[00:42:40] That's like the new rate.

[00:42:41] You see what I mean?

[00:42:41] The story changes.

[00:42:42] And the only difference between foosball and that is that made it mainstream and foosball hasn't

[00:42:46] yet.

[00:42:47] Correct.

[00:42:47] And why hasn't foosball been made mainstream?

[00:42:49] Let's, let's dive deep into it.

[00:42:51] Well, foosball is not in a sense.

[00:42:53] You can't have a brand new person watch a match for 45 minutes or an hour and stay tuned.

[00:42:58] Our minds are triggered to be all over the place.

[00:43:02] And here's my philosophy is foosball is not made to try to pull people in to watch a 45

[00:43:07] minute match.

[00:43:08] Foosball is entertaining, right?

[00:43:09] So when you think about poker, if you watch the world's years of poker and you watched every

[00:43:14] single second of the world's years of poker, you'd be freaking bored out your mind.

[00:43:18] You'd say, why is there shut up one for so long?

[00:43:21] What the hell?

[00:43:23] You're watching one guy sit there for 15 minutes trying to make a damn decision.

[00:43:27] Do you think that's entertaining?

[00:43:28] No.

[00:43:29] That's what foosball is.

[00:43:30] Foosball is highlights.

[00:43:32] Foosball is what is the best things that happen in here?

[00:43:34] What is the funniest things that happen out of here?

[00:43:36] Right.

[00:43:36] That's what foosball is.

[00:43:38] When we're talking about actually putting on a production of a 45 minute or hour long

[00:43:41] movie on the show, it's kind of like what the foosballers did, but high action reels.

[00:43:47] It's all really cool stuff.

[00:43:48] It's the action shots of each of the matches.

[00:43:50] Replays.

[00:43:51] It's showing every point that went in and how it went in, kind of like what Clay's doing.

[00:43:55] And that's viewership for foosball.

[00:43:57] It's not, let's get people in a, let's pack a stadium.

[00:44:00] That's never going to happen.

[00:44:01] And we don't need it to.

[00:44:02] Right.

[00:44:03] That's the whole point.

[00:44:04] We don't need a package stadium.

[00:44:05] If we, which is going to happen in Vegas, we're going to have 365 seats in the stands

[00:44:10] for open doubles and singles and women's doubles and women's singles.

[00:44:14] So that's going to be the first step up for American foosball.

[00:44:16] And I actually was just doing the analysis on this today.

[00:44:19] And pretty easily with what we're doing, I can get us up to 605 seats pretty easily.

[00:44:26] So we have 20 of seating potential for the finals.

[00:44:30] And if we get above that, then that's great.

[00:44:33] I mean, these are good problems to have, right?

[00:44:36] Yeah.

[00:44:36] But that's enough.

[00:44:39] You know, 365 people in the crowd is going to be freaking loud.

[00:44:42] That is a lot.

[00:44:44] That is great.

[00:44:46] That's going to be Vegas and Worlds.

[00:44:47] Vegas is going to be up to 365 people can be in the crowd this year.

[00:44:51] And then depending on how that goes, if we pack the stands, then depending on how many

[00:44:55] people couldn't get a seat will be how I make it grow.

[00:44:58] Because the next step is 425, then 515, then 605 based on these formations.

[00:45:03] That's the thing that I've created with the finals area.

[00:45:08] Where is Tornado Worlds going to take place this year?

[00:45:10] Is it still in Kentucky?

[00:45:13] No.

[00:45:14] No?

[00:45:15] Yeah.

[00:45:17] It's still to be determined, though.

[00:45:19] To be determined?

[00:45:19] No.

[00:45:19] It's actually not contracted, so I can't give you an answer.

[00:45:24] Oh, okay.

[00:45:24] The same goes for nationals.

[00:45:26] It's in the works.

[00:45:28] But there's been certain things that have been coming through the grapevine that have

[00:45:35] stopped me from making the decision because it's all positive if the grapevine is true.

[00:45:41] So there could be situations where we actually have better venues coming up here in 2025, 2026.

[00:45:49] So I stopped all venue seeking until these decisions have been made.

[00:45:53] And then we can start maybe delegating additional funds towards having better facilities.

[00:45:57] Cool.

[00:46:00] So are your plans to expand coast to coast?

[00:46:03] Are you planning to do – I mean, going into 2026, are you planning to go west coast to east coast?

[00:46:09] Because I got people in the northeast that are hungry.

[00:46:13] Yeah.

[00:46:13] Yeah.

[00:46:14] I really think I'm going to move – I know this – I think that in 2026, which it's a big gamble, though,

[00:46:21] because of the snow, I'm considering moving TKO to somewhere in the northeast.

[00:46:27] Wow.

[00:46:27] Trying to find a good spot.

[00:46:28] But it's a bit of a gamble.

[00:46:29] I want TKO to be a floater moving forward.

[00:46:31] Mm-hmm.

[00:46:32] This year, I didn't have time.

[00:46:33] And people don't realize, like, when you're contracting venues, typically you're, like,

[00:46:38] minimum six months out.

[00:46:39] That's why we have a gun to our head right now for nationals.

[00:46:42] But you're six months out.

[00:46:44] But, like, I have a couple places I contacted about worlds, and I'm like,

[00:46:47] God, this place is freaking perfect.

[00:46:50] Perfect.

[00:46:51] No.

[00:46:51] They're sold out for 2025, and they're sold out for 2026.

[00:46:57] They're like, we're over two years ahead, bro.

[00:46:59] Like, you have to contact us two years in advance.

[00:47:01] And I'm like, God bless.

[00:47:02] I'm like, this is perfect.

[00:47:04] So for worlds, you know, the thing is, is depending on the height of – well,

[00:47:09] I need the building to be, like, 20-foot or 25-foot ceilings,

[00:47:13] or else I cannot host the finals that I want to host.

[00:47:15] Huh.

[00:47:16] And that's due to bleacher height.

[00:47:17] That's due to scaffolding height.

[00:47:19] That's due to special effects.

[00:47:21] That's due to fire regulation and all sorts of crap.

[00:47:24] So –

[00:47:24] Dude, I thought you were going to say fireworks.

[00:47:27] I thought you were going to say fireworks.

[00:47:29] Yeah, no.

[00:47:30] We're probably not doing cold sparks or anything like that.

[00:47:33] I think it's maybe a little too cheesy for us, but I have some other cool ideas.

[00:47:39] But, no.

[00:47:39] No, so worlds has to have tall ceilings, and that's my first hurdle.

[00:47:43] Most places have, like, you know, 12, 14, 16-foot ceilings.

[00:47:46] Well, you'll be touching the damn ceiling if you're on the top row of the bleachers.

[00:47:50] That doesn't work.

[00:47:51] You know, so, you know, that's kind of the thing.

[00:47:54] But now that some new things are coming through the grapevine, now I have this hurdle with all tournaments because all tournaments can be much bigger.

[00:48:03] So, historically, foosball has been trapped in a world of, you know, not having enough funding, right?

[00:48:14] And so now that that's gone, now the door opens to different ideas, different things.

[00:48:20] And it sounds like, oh, well, this was easy.

[00:48:22] Why didn't this happen all the time?

[00:48:23] Well, it's not easy.

[00:48:24] It's not easy.

[00:48:25] There's two things you have to have.

[00:48:27] You have to have a vision.

[00:48:29] You have to have somebody with a capital.

[00:48:31] And those two people have to like each other.

[00:48:33] Luckily, I love myself.

[00:48:38] I mean –

[00:48:40] Let's go.

[00:48:41] Let's go.

[00:48:42] Well, I mean, you know, so you have to have those two things really, you know, helping each other.

[00:48:47] And so that's what's, you know, going to make this thing happen.

[00:48:51] It is I'm okay not making money for a while.

[00:48:53] I'm okay sticking three quarters of a million dollars in this thing.

[00:48:57] Let's go.

[00:48:57] Yeah.

[00:48:58] Wow.

[00:48:59] Dude, I'm glad there's no internal struggle there, buddy.

[00:49:02] Seriously.

[00:49:04] Working my ass off to be at this point.

[00:49:06] Just remember that.

[00:49:06] Hey, man.

[00:49:07] Hey, man.

[00:49:07] I appreciate it.

[00:49:08] I want you to understand that.

[00:49:10] Dude, again,

[00:49:11] if you ever need anything,

[00:49:13] I'm –

[00:49:13] Dude, if I'm at a tournament and you need –

[00:49:15] If you just say,

[00:49:15] Dude, I'm hungry.

[00:49:16] Go get me some food.

[00:49:17] I'm going to hook you up.

[00:49:18] Believe me.

[00:49:18] I understand the amount.

[00:49:20] Look, I really don't.

[00:49:21] I don't know how much work you're putting in,

[00:49:23] but I appreciate it.

[00:49:24] I do.

[00:49:24] I hope you know that.

[00:49:25] No question.

[00:49:26] I don't know.

[00:49:27] Venmo, you're 100 bucks when you can, okay?

[00:49:28] I need 100 bucks to take the wipe out.

[00:49:30] What's your Venmo?

[00:49:33] I'll send it to you right now.

[00:49:34] There you go.

[00:49:34] I think it's Ryan Moore 47.

[00:49:36] Yeah.

[00:49:41] Oh, Lord.

[00:49:42] Well, listen.

[00:49:43] I got – okay.

[00:49:44] So I got to – now I got to – I got to shift gears into something we probably don't want to talk about,

[00:49:48] but I got to ask you.

[00:49:51] The tables have been sucking pretty bad.

[00:49:53] Yeah.

[00:49:54] What's going on with the tables?

[00:49:58] What I can say is this is the stuff you were talking about pre-show you may or may not want to be talking about,

[00:50:05] and you're kind of verging that line.

[00:50:08] But what I can say is that – how do I say this?

[00:50:18] Tornado is working on it.

[00:50:20] They have been for a while.

[00:50:24] But it's being worked on, okay?

[00:50:26] It's being worked on.

[00:50:27] The question is when will it get fixed?

[00:50:32] You're asking me?

[00:50:33] No, no, no, no.

[00:50:35] I'm asking the gods of the universe.

[00:50:38] Right, yeah, yeah.

[00:50:39] I'm asking the gods of the universe that question.

[00:50:43] And all I can say is I've absolutely tried my – the most I can.

[00:50:49] I've done the most that I personally can to make it better,

[00:50:52] and we are capped out from my involvement on making things better with Tornado.

[00:50:57] Yeah.

[00:50:57] Well, and that's the thing about you.

[00:50:59] What I can also say is nothing is going to stop foosball long term.

[00:51:04] No.

[00:51:05] Yeah.

[00:51:06] So nothing is going to stop the growth of foosball,

[00:51:09] and if anybody gets in the way, we'll figure out how to make it better.

[00:51:12] Yeah.

[00:51:12] Well, and that's the thing about – again, you being in charge,

[00:51:17] you're one of the best players in the world.

[00:51:19] You're one of the best players to ever live.

[00:51:20] You're a top player.

[00:51:21] You understand the game in a way most people don't, but not even that.

[00:51:24] You understand the equipment.

[00:51:26] Like I've seen you go up to tables and just take the rods and turn them over

[00:51:30] and look at the men to see how they line up,

[00:51:31] and you're picking sides not based on anything else other than are these men lined up correctly,

[00:51:36] the way the rods are – different things about the table that you just understand.

[00:51:42] If you're a professional sport, we need to play on professional-grade equipment.

[00:51:46] So the tables – we've had some pretty rough runs of tables.

[00:51:51] So if you're telling me that they're working on it, then, I mean, let's go.

[00:51:55] At least something needs to give.

[00:51:59] Yeah.

[00:51:59] Well, here's the other problem.

[00:52:01] Well, the other problem is supplying new balls.

[00:52:04] For some reason, there's no new balls.

[00:52:07] Now, again, I have no idea what the circumstance might be,

[00:52:10] but apparently there's some manufacturing issue with the tornado balls.

[00:52:18] What's going on with that?

[00:52:24] They're working on it.

[00:52:26] Okay.

[00:52:28] Okay.

[00:52:29] I'm still waiting for confirmation, but I would almost think that this is a guarantee,

[00:52:33] is that TKO will be played on tornado balls, not some other ball.

[00:52:37] Okay.

[00:52:38] But we have been struggling for the last two years to have balls in stock from foosgear.com.

[00:52:43] Yeah.

[00:52:45] And we've been trying to order thousands of balls for the last two years.

[00:52:49] I actually was trying to entice them to get things fixed.

[00:52:51] I said, look, I'll buy 10,000 balls from you January 1st if you can get them to me.

[00:52:56] Because they're a big company.

[00:52:58] You know, Valley Dynamo is a big company, not Tornado.

[00:53:02] Valley Dynamo, it oversees, you know, their pool tables, shuffleboard.

[00:53:09] They got some other stuff they're dipping into.

[00:53:11] And foosball is a really small market for them.

[00:53:15] So it's kind of, you know, maybe on the lower list of things to do when it comes to innovation

[00:53:20] or even just, you know, overseeing stuff.

[00:53:22] But I've tried to entice them with a, you know, 30-something thousand dollar order of balls

[00:53:29] to just get them to go, oh, well, this sounds like something that's entertaining.

[00:53:33] Let's get this done.

[00:53:34] Yeah.

[00:53:35] You know, because 2,000 just, it doesn't, it's a routing error for them.

[00:53:39] You know what I mean?

[00:53:39] 2,000 balls, you know, like I said, 660-something hundred bucks.

[00:53:42] It's a routing error for them.

[00:53:44] So, you know, that's, you know, my hope is that things, little birdie says the issues have

[00:53:51] been fixed and they should have balls out in the next week or two.

[00:53:55] Okay.

[00:53:56] Good to hear.

[00:53:57] That's something.

[00:53:59] Yeah.

[00:53:59] And it's, again, it's out of your hands and, you know, this is not, you know, making yourself

[00:54:06] the foosball world problems show.

[00:54:09] This is all about, you know, getting excited about 2025.

[00:54:12] A question that we got on our feed after we posted the announcement of the show.

[00:54:19] Someone would like to know when it comes to the actual tournaments themselves for the

[00:54:23] world foosball tour, will it be more events or less events or will it stay the same?

[00:54:30] Do you mean by like events, like people go to like total events to the year?

[00:54:34] Like Wisconsin?

[00:54:35] No, I think it means like events in the tournament.

[00:54:38] Within the tournament itself.

[00:54:40] How many events in a weekend?

[00:54:41] This is actually a really good topic and I love it.

[00:54:43] And, you know, I have the power of the history of foosball behind me.

[00:54:49] I'm not saying that I'm right or wrong.

[00:54:51] Okay.

[00:54:51] I want to put that out there.

[00:54:52] Like everything that I do in foosball is based off the input that I have.

[00:54:56] So every decision that I make is going to be calculated based off what I know, the history,

[00:55:01] what I think could happen and all of the above.

[00:55:04] That's my big disclaimer.

[00:55:05] I don't always believe I'm right.

[00:55:07] I just want people to understand that.

[00:55:08] I believe that I have a hypothesis.

[00:55:10] I'm going to test it.

[00:55:11] If it works, great.

[00:55:12] If it doesn't, I'm going to scrap it and start with something new.

[00:55:14] You know, that's how I work quick.

[00:55:16] I don't believe my ideology is correct always.

[00:55:18] But with that being said, here's the way the financial aspect of it.

[00:55:23] There's two parts of this, the financial aspect and what the players want.

[00:55:26] Okay.

[00:55:27] We'll start with the, since I said first, the financial aspect.

[00:55:31] Let's say that we cut the events in half.

[00:55:35] That means we have roughly half the revenue coming in or maybe a little less.

[00:55:40] And the only way to create the same financial outcome for the payouts and for the profits of the tournament is to either double the entry fees or half the payouts.

[00:55:53] That's the only way to create it.

[00:55:55] Let's just say the promoter is trying to make five grand.

[00:55:57] If we take out half of the revenue, we have to half the payouts or we have to double the entry fees to create the same amount of revenue.

[00:56:04] Right.

[00:56:04] Very simple math on the outside.

[00:56:06] Because this was my big struggle with Swiss.

[00:56:09] Okay.

[00:56:09] I, as a player, actually really love Swiss.

[00:56:12] It's my probably favorite format as a pro master.

[00:56:16] Maybe not as like a rookie or amateur wouldn't be my favorite format.

[00:56:19] But as a pro master, it's my favorite because it's, you know, it's a single elimination format.

[00:56:23] I love single elimination, honestly.

[00:56:25] Just to be blunt, Swiss is probably my favorite.

[00:56:28] Second would be championship.

[00:56:29] Third would be single.

[00:56:31] Fourth would be double elimination.

[00:56:32] So the first thing I tried to do was figure out how do I implement Swiss?

[00:56:37] That was the first thing I tried to do when I took over when the idea of me taking over tour was.

[00:56:40] And I did a lot of soul searching math, investigation, talking with people, research on other sports that do it.

[00:56:48] And my conclusion was, in order to implement Swiss, I would need to start the event about 9 a.m.

[00:56:55] And it would finish at best at about 10 p.m.

[00:56:59] If we wanted to give the players what they wanted.

[00:57:01] The only way to shorten that is to have less qualification rounds or shorter games in the qualification rounds.

[00:57:07] Go ahead, Randy.

[00:57:08] Right.

[00:57:08] That's one event?

[00:57:10] Yeah.

[00:57:11] So that's women's singles, women's open singles.

[00:57:13] They have to be the same event.

[00:57:15] And here's your thing.

[00:57:15] Let's just say we have Swiss for open singles and open doubles.

[00:57:18] What days do they have to play on?

[00:57:21] Separate days.

[00:57:23] Friday and Saturday.

[00:57:24] Okay.

[00:57:25] Yeah.

[00:57:25] That's the day everybody's there.

[00:57:27] People typically roll in an average.

[00:57:30] The attendance raises midday through Friday.

[00:57:33] And it leaves midday through Sunday.

[00:57:34] People get off work and come.

[00:57:36] Or they take off Friday.

[00:57:37] They travel.

[00:57:37] They get there.

[00:57:38] And then a lot of people leave halfway through Sunday to get home so they can get to work on Monday.

[00:57:42] Right.

[00:57:42] So your core days that you're going to see every promoter pile all your events in on is going to be Friday and Saturday.

[00:57:49] That's going to be all your main events.

[00:57:50] Right?

[00:57:51] And with Swiss, we would have to have singles on Friday and doubles on Saturday.

[00:57:58] Mind you, with Swiss, no other events can be played.

[00:58:01] Every single table is going to be taken.

[00:58:03] And it has to be prioritized in the elimination round where no other events can be played.

[00:58:08] So now, what does that mean for the rest of the events?

[00:58:11] They have to be played on Thursday?

[00:58:13] Or they have to be played on Sunday?

[00:58:15] Or they have to be scrapped?

[00:58:17] Okay?

[00:58:19] And again, the only way that I can actually implement Swiss to where I could shorten it dramatically is like say we have,

[00:58:26] Hey guys, we have three or four qualifiers and there are race to fives and race to sevens.

[00:58:30] Okay?

[00:58:31] And, you know, if I did that, number one is when you look at the statistic or the number side of it, you're going to have a lot of ties.

[00:58:40] Let's say we only have half the field qualify.

[00:58:42] 64 people out of 128 qualify.

[00:58:44] You're going to have all these people that tie for 64th place.

[00:58:47] Well, how do you say who gets it and who doesn't?

[00:58:49] Typically, you go off wins and you go off of points and you go off of your opponent's points and how much you scored.

[00:58:54] So the less qualification rounds you have, the more likely there is for duplicates at that final qualification round.

[00:59:02] So you have a shitstorm.

[00:59:04] So the more people you have, let's say we grow this thing and we get, let's say we get like the German tournament had like a crazy amount, 400, 500 people in the singles event.

[00:59:13] Well, they had a qualification system.

[00:59:16] They had a big group of people that qualified and ran it the entire day.

[00:59:20] And so they found a way to make it work and finish in the entire day.

[00:59:24] But there's no way you can play any other events.

[00:59:26] So the question really becomes, will you go to a tournament and pay $1,000 to go to a tournament to play two events?

[00:59:34] Most people say no.

[00:59:35] Most people say no.

[00:59:36] There's a few.

[00:59:37] You're right.

[00:59:38] That are going to be the people that really advocate the opposite that are going to say, yes, that sounds great.

[00:59:43] So here's my theory to that.

[00:59:47] It's like if there's 30 events in a weekend, you can choose to only play two.

[00:59:51] Correct.

[00:59:52] With Swiss, you can't choose to play five or six.

[00:59:55] Right.

[00:59:55] And we recently just had a European, and it's only one.

[00:59:58] Again, you're one off as a person saying, hey, let's shorten these events.

[01:00:01] And that's okay.

[01:00:02] Dude, opinions are fine.

[01:00:03] They're actually really good to find a good middle ground.

[01:00:06] But this guy is a European that came over the first time and played.

[01:00:08] He said, I really love American events because I was able to play a bunch of events.

[01:00:12] In Europe, it's only two.

[01:00:13] Yep.

[01:00:14] They love that.

[01:00:15] He's like, I got to go there, and I got to play a bunch of events.

[01:00:17] I had a bunch of chances to win.

[01:00:19] You know, he wasn't a master of nothing, but that's what he thought.

[01:00:22] You know?

[01:00:22] So where's that middle ground?

[01:00:24] I think if you only like to play two events, then play two events.

[01:00:29] And a real thing that solves this more than anything, the reason why they don't like so many events, the reason why most people don't like so many events is because they're conflicting each other, and you start an event on Friday, and it doesn't finish until Sunday sometime.

[01:00:41] Right?

[01:00:41] Yeah.

[01:00:43] That is a problem we can fix with strategy.

[01:00:48] Okay?

[01:00:48] That's a problem we can fix.

[01:00:50] So before we go jump in the gun to make less events, let's see if we can actually solve the problem.

[01:00:55] If we can solve the problem, we no longer have one.

[01:01:00] So that's where me getting into these tournaments, I have ideas on how to do that, but I have to get into these tournaments and actually see if they work.

[01:01:06] And what's funny is I'm going to be working these ideas behind the scenes, and nobody's going to have a clue that I'm doing them.

[01:01:11] And I'll know if they're going to work or not by TKO, and I'll probably try to implement it in Vegas.

[01:01:15] And they're going to be really cool if they get implemented.

[01:01:17] People are like, oh, fuck, this is awesome.

[01:01:19] You know?

[01:01:20] A world where you know you're going to play.

[01:01:22] You know what I mean?

[01:01:23] Yeah.

[01:01:23] That's the world, right?

[01:01:26] And I think we can do it.

[01:01:26] I think we can do it with some strategy there.

[01:01:28] And to be fair, you do need some feedback, right?

[01:01:31] Some real-world experimentation.

[01:01:34] TKO, of course, is a great place to do that.

[01:01:37] And, you know, just going back to this last year with the ITSF in Dallas, they did four events a day.

[01:01:45] And they had it organized, so you took a break at a certain time of the day.

[01:01:49] And it seemed to work out pretty well.

[01:01:51] But, again, you know, you could only play in just those events that you were there for,

[01:01:56] which I think for me it was like over 63 and played in amateurs.

[01:02:03] And that was it.

[01:02:05] But in a regular IFP tournament, I could play as many as six or seven events if I wanted to.

[01:02:11] Yeah.

[01:02:12] And, you know, this is not going to be shots at anybody, okay?

[01:02:16] But let's extrapolate that, the ITSF event that just happened.

[01:02:20] And it's going to be happening again.

[01:02:22] And I want to put this out there.

[01:02:23] Like, I love Steve Murray.

[01:02:25] I hope that that event is successful.

[01:02:27] I never look down or want anything.

[01:02:29] And when somebody has passion towards foosball, I never want them to fail.

[01:02:33] Nobody is my competitor in this sport because at the end of the day, if you're helping foosball grow, then you have the same mission as I do.

[01:02:40] My only competitor is foosball stagnating, right?

[01:02:43] But let's extrapolate that event.

[01:02:47] And I hope that it changes.

[01:02:49] There was not a big attendance.

[01:02:52] You may have seen videos and stuff of it.

[01:02:53] You may have seen the rooms full.

[01:02:55] Obviously, that was during qualification rounds.

[01:02:57] And then everybody's gone.

[01:02:58] And the room was empty.

[01:02:59] And, you know, it was kind of sad.

[01:03:01] You'd walk in the room the second half of the day.

[01:03:03] And you'd kind of go, well, this sucks.

[01:03:05] And you'd go back to the bar and go back to your room.

[01:03:07] But, you know, the energy wasn't there, right?

[01:03:09] Because nobody's in the room.

[01:03:10] Because nobody's playing foosball.

[01:03:12] So a lot of people I don't think went because, well, there's many reasons.

[01:03:16] But I think one of the reasons maybe was that they didn't feel like there was a value proposition there for them.

[01:03:21] It's like, well, I can only play open singles, open doubles.

[01:03:23] And I'm not going to win those.

[01:03:25] So why go?

[01:03:28] If you don't have a reason to win, most people won't do it.

[01:03:31] If you don't think you can win, most people won't go.

[01:03:34] So I think that was an issue with it.

[01:03:36] And then, you know, I'm a top player.

[01:03:38] I won doubles, open doubles and classic doubles there, which is two of the four main events.

[01:03:45] And not counting any of my family's expenses, I still lost 200 bucks.

[01:03:51] And that's the World Series.

[01:03:53] And that's winning two events.

[01:03:55] Right.

[01:03:56] Yeah, two of the main events.

[01:03:58] And so, you know, and I drove.

[01:04:00] I didn't even fly.

[01:04:02] So the issue, again, with Swiss is if you don't have the revenue coming in, you can't pay the money out.

[01:04:09] It's just max.

[01:04:11] And, you know, the difference between the World Foosball Tour and, say, like the ITSF, one thing the ITSF really lacked on was actually taking care of the players.

[01:04:21] Bottom line.

[01:04:21] I mean, you can see this.

[01:04:23] Yeah.

[01:04:23] They have beautiful events.

[01:04:25] They have beautiful stages.

[01:04:27] They have, you know, sponsors that get behind them.

[01:04:30] They have everything but giving a fuck about the players and showmanship.

[01:04:38] They don't have any showmanship.

[01:04:39] They have none.

[01:04:40] They have a beautiful stage with nobody to conduct it.

[01:04:43] They have a band with nobody telling them what to play.

[01:04:46] You know, that's what they have been lacking forever.

[01:04:49] And that's where we're going to come in and shake things up.

[01:04:52] The players are, it's going to be cool to be the top player again.

[01:04:56] And there's actually going to be a show behind, it's going to be fun when you come to the event.

[01:05:00] You know?

[01:05:02] You know, again, it's the vision and the funds.

[01:05:07] And they hit each other.

[01:05:08] I'm pumped.

[01:05:09] Look, so I got a couple more.

[01:05:13] Just again, and some of these are just things that I want to know.

[01:05:16] But are you going to put a limit on the number of masters?

[01:05:19] I know you've always said you feel like there's too many masters.

[01:05:21] Are you going to cut back on the masters?

[01:05:23] No.

[01:05:24] No, I'm not going to strip anybody's title away from them.

[01:05:27] I did go back and forth with the idea of saying, ah, there should only be 50.

[01:05:31] Or, ah, there should only be 20.

[01:05:32] Or, ah, there should be.

[01:05:32] But no, at the end of the day, man, you earned it.

[01:05:35] I'm not going to strip anybody's title away from them.

[01:05:37] That's not, that's not, it goes against my core beliefs.

[01:05:40] So, you know, everything I, every decision I make is like, is this aligned with my core beliefs?

[01:05:45] Is this in line with World Foosball Tour's core beliefs?

[01:05:47] Like what it stands for.

[01:05:48] And ripping people's titles away from them is not one.

[01:05:51] Of course.

[01:05:52] Of course.

[01:05:52] So, so inactive, right?

[01:05:55] Inactive masters.

[01:05:57] That's a good one.

[01:05:58] 10, 15 years.

[01:06:00] They want to come back.

[01:06:01] Can they be relegated?

[01:06:03] If you were a man, like say, okay, example, Terry, Terry Moore dominated the nineties world champ.

[01:06:08] Hall of fame.

[01:06:09] Hasn't toured in how many years.

[01:06:11] He calls you and says, Ryan, I want to come back.

[01:06:14] Can I get relegated to pro?

[01:06:16] I would say you need to send in a, submit your, your, your, your request to the points committee and they will give you an answer based on your particular situation.

[01:06:25] Ryan Moore does not make that decision.

[01:06:26] Just to be clear, you know, not to lie or anything.

[01:06:29] I may have to step in and trim of the points committee.

[01:06:32] You know, a couple of the members are getting stuff situated.

[01:06:35] So when we know we're about to get hard, maybe here in the beginning.

[01:06:38] So I may step in just to help with the sifting through and bringing all the information to the table.

[01:06:44] You know, we can look at people's history and stuff like that.

[01:06:46] I mean, it's quite the undertaking to relegate somebody or to even see if they qualify.

[01:06:50] So I might step in in the beginning when, when workload's heavy, but otherwise I won't be a part of that.

[01:06:54] And that'll be up to the team.

[01:06:56] And I don't, I don't know your answer.

[01:06:58] You know, the thing is, is like, let's, let's, let's make, we can really take it to the next level and say, what if Fred, Fred hasn't been playing for a long time.

[01:07:05] Do you think we're going to relegate him to pro?

[01:07:07] No, there's a legacy, there's a legacy factor there.

[01:07:10] You know what I mean?

[01:07:12] So there's a legacy factor there where, where you got to go.

[01:07:15] Okay.

[01:07:19] If you're going to relegate somebody down to pro and they come to the next Vegas and worlds and they sweep pro, we fucked up.

[01:07:26] Yeah.

[01:07:27] The voice committee fucked up.

[01:07:29] Yeah.

[01:07:29] That's, that's exactly the way that we've talked about.

[01:07:32] It's like, they cannot, we're not going to relegate them down if that's going to make them the top dominating pro.

[01:07:39] It's only if like, we truly don't believe based on their past history and their current performance or their length of, of an activity.

[01:07:47] Or even, you know, other reasons that may come up to play, you know, maybe somebody got handicapped in their wheelchair.

[01:07:52] Well, you know what I mean?

[01:07:54] Maybe that, that could be a situation.

[01:07:55] I'm not saying it was, but that would be a very good situation to go.

[01:07:58] Yeah.

[01:07:58] He's, he's not a master now.

[01:08:00] He can't win in master.

[01:08:01] Let's relegate him down to pro.

[01:08:02] Let's see how he does.

[01:08:03] He can't win pro.

[01:08:04] Let's relegate him down to expert.

[01:08:05] If he wants to have a fighting chance, let's, you know, let's let him have a fighting chance.

[01:08:08] You know?

[01:08:10] You know, that's really what the relegation is.

[01:08:11] It's not made to, it's not a mechanism for people to go down just to win.

[01:08:15] It's a mechanism to put people where they truly could be.

[01:08:19] Right?

[01:08:20] So again, and we have that actually, again, on our website, we already under, if you, if you pull it up, I have to adjust one thing on there.

[01:08:27] But if you pull it up and you say players, or if you go to players tab and there's points and literally we spell all this out in that, in that, on our website.

[01:08:37] So we have it very transparent.

[01:08:38] We also have a running list of every single person that was ever relegated.

[01:08:42] So you're going to see every single person that was relegated, period, and the reason why.

[01:08:47] So people can understand, hey, we relegated this person because X, Y, Z.

[01:08:51] This is the transparency part that the players want and that we're going to give them.

[01:08:56] That's perfect.

[01:08:57] Yeah.

[01:08:58] Yeah.

[01:08:58] And that's, again, the, I think, I think, I think that's something players have been wanting for a long time is just, what are you doing?

[01:09:06] Why are you doing it?

[01:09:07] So, um, I think that's, I think that's outstanding.

[01:09:11] Um, you know, even, even like the relegating part, um, it's not just about, um, I haven't played in 10 years and I want to come back.

[01:09:20] Like, like you guys are actually going to just dig into it and say, is this a good choice for foosball rather than just going, yeah, come on, come, come play.

[01:09:30] And I, and I think that's fair to everybody.

[01:09:33] So thank you.

[01:09:34] I'm just going to say this openly and it's not going to matter because we're still going to get it.

[01:09:38] There's going to be people that get relegated and it's going to be wrong.

[01:09:41] And the points committee is going to see it.

[01:09:43] And they're going to be there.

[01:09:44] Everybody's going to scream about it.

[01:09:45] You're going to have a big thing.

[01:09:46] And they're going to get moved right back up.

[01:09:47] Like just cause you're relegated doesn't mean you stay in that rank for the rest of the year.

[01:09:51] It's like, if we really deemed we, we messed up, like all of a sudden we relegated you down.

[01:09:55] You won a Vegas with a heavy pro field.

[01:09:58] And we took you down to pro and it's like all the best pros are there.

[01:10:01] We've locked up.

[01:10:02] You're going right back up to master.

[01:10:04] You know what I mean?

[01:10:06] So, um, yeah.

[01:10:08] So, so again, man, like there's no perfect system with points.

[01:10:11] I can tell you that right now from the due diligence I've done, there's zero perfect system.

[01:10:15] And foosball has a layer of, um, um, complexity that other things like chess don't have because

[01:10:25] of the way that, uh, we've been conditioned over time.

[01:10:28] There's, there's decisions that could be the right one, but it would be the wrong one when

[01:10:32] it comes to foosball as a whole.

[01:10:34] Like it could be the right decision, but it could make more people quit than it would actually

[01:10:38] gain.

[01:10:39] And so those decisions are not what you do right now.

[01:10:42] Like at all, you don't, you, you don't lose your player base.

[01:10:45] You don't make dramatic changes that are going to piss off half your field.

[01:10:49] You make only changes that help everybody.

[01:10:52] And maybe you sneak in one that's kind of a little raunchy, but you know, because it needs

[01:10:57] to be, but overall it has to be good.

[01:11:00] Everything has to be good.

[01:11:02] Yeah.

[01:11:02] Um, you know, there's not every decision is going to be right.

[01:11:05] I mean, I kind of, I can throw that out there from the points commission or for me, like

[01:11:08] the points committee, I'm sorry, or me, uh, we, we will not make every right decision.

[01:11:12] I can just tell you that everything will be, you know, we will learn and we will adjust

[01:11:17] case in point.

[01:11:19] Uh, Tom Spear is back.

[01:11:22] He's, uh, he's playing again in Colorado, uh, with Todd Lafredo on a weekly basis.

[01:11:26] And he he's, uh, he's back on the table.

[01:11:28] So here's a, here's a legendary hall of fame player who wants to, who knows, maybe he'll

[01:11:33] get back on the tour.

[01:11:34] I mean, that would be great.

[01:11:36] Uh, but what would, what would happen?

[01:11:39] Well, number one is he would have to contact the world football tour points committee and

[01:11:44] he would ask, ask, there you go.

[01:11:46] Yeah.

[01:11:46] He would have to ask, Hey, can I be relegated?

[01:11:50] And then the points committee will say yes or no.

[01:11:54] It's that's the process, man.

[01:11:55] Right.

[01:11:55] There's not one person.

[01:11:57] There's not one person that we, if somebody, I mean, there's a few people, but there's

[01:12:02] not one person that will send us like even Tom, honestly, I think Tom could have a case

[01:12:06] if he wanted to, to be relegated.

[01:12:07] He could have a case.

[01:12:09] Doesn't mean it'll be win or lose.

[01:12:11] And we're all going to, people are going to see these decisions and go, well, that's

[01:12:14] wrong.

[01:12:14] Well, that's right.

[01:12:15] Or, you know, most people are always think it's wrong, but this is going to be off a

[01:12:18] straight pass.

[01:12:19] And we're going to say it in the paragraph.

[01:12:20] He was relegated because he never actually won pro he's, he's placing below pros and

[01:12:25] open consistently every time he plays.

[01:12:27] This is why he's now a pro.

[01:12:29] It's like, he's not even placing in the top pros of open, you know?

[01:12:33] So yes, he's not a master.

[01:12:35] He's, he wants to be a pro.

[01:12:36] He goes to pro, you know?

[01:12:38] So, uh, you know, and, and, and a person like a top master that hadn't played in a long

[01:12:42] time.

[01:12:43] Well, hell man, if they ain't played for 20 years, I promise you our pros are going to

[01:12:46] smoke them.

[01:12:46] I don't care who they are.

[01:12:47] I bet you, like you mentioned Terry Moore and I actually talked to him.

[01:12:51] I sent him a message like, Hey man, when you coming out, I'm still waiting for a reply.

[01:12:53] Um, but, uh, I, I, uh, I bet you he would not be Balcos right now.

[01:13:01] Yeah.

[01:13:01] Balcos was our top pro.

[01:13:03] I guarantee you right now I put, I put money on Balcos all day.

[01:13:06] Yeah.

[01:13:06] Uh, three out of five against him.

[01:13:08] He was our top pro.

[01:13:09] Right.

[01:13:10] So I think that with practice, he could become and win again.

[01:13:16] Maybe, maybe you could even be a month of practice.

[01:13:18] We don't know.

[01:13:19] Uh, but that's, that's the real case.

[01:13:21] Can these players come out and actually compete with the new age of foosball?

[01:13:24] Cause it's different.

[01:13:25] It's different.

[01:13:26] And when you don't play for 10 years, I'm sorry, man, the rust, the rust is settled in.

[01:13:30] It takes a little bit to knock it off.

[01:13:31] No question.

[01:13:32] Yeah.

[01:13:33] Yeah.

[01:13:33] Well, and I'm sure a guy like, I'm sure a guy like Terry's got it up here.

[01:13:38] Oh, yeah.

[01:13:39] We all, we all know translating it to these, especially, you know, yeah, it's like riding

[01:13:44] a bike.

[01:13:45] No, it's not dude.

[01:13:46] It takes a hot minute.

[01:13:48] So.

[01:13:48] Oh yeah.

[01:13:50] It changed.

[01:13:50] Yeah.

[01:13:51] I'm, I'm with you on that.

[01:13:52] But like with, I mean, I, I'd love to see Jacob and Terry play a three out of five.

[01:13:57] I throw some dough on that.

[01:13:58] Yeah.

[01:13:58] Let's go.

[01:13:59] Terry.

[01:14:00] Okay.

[01:14:04] Let's do my money on Jacob.

[01:14:05] Come on.

[01:14:06] Come on, Terry.

[01:14:07] I'll take that bet.

[01:14:08] Yeah.

[01:14:09] What are we giving odds?

[01:14:11] Hmm.

[01:14:13] Well, I'm just saying, well, look, even.

[01:14:16] We're going to have one about full kicks all time from the two bar.

[01:14:19] Terry had a great two bar.

[01:14:20] Push, pull, pull kick.

[01:14:22] Dude.

[01:14:22] I want, I, again, I've watched so much of his game anyway.

[01:14:25] I digress, but okay.

[01:14:27] I last one, last one, dude.

[01:14:29] You remember the 3,500 limited, right?

[01:14:32] Oh.

[01:14:34] And I know, obviously with the points now, we can't do that.

[01:14:37] But have you, have you considered doing like a straight pro-am?

[01:14:42] Um, not like a, you know, master beginner pro, like just a straight, anyone who's not a pro

[01:14:48] can play with anybody who is a pro.

[01:14:50] Just, uh, kind of.

[01:14:52] And I'm asking this because somebody wanted me to ask.

[01:14:56] Um, yeah.

[01:14:56] I did it.

[01:14:57] I did it for TKO in Vegas.

[01:14:58] It's just called the two-ball rollerball program.

[01:15:02] No two pro.

[01:15:03] I have a, I have it as a no two pro two ball.

[01:15:05] And that way we diversify the masters.

[01:15:07] We don't let nobody stack.

[01:15:08] I love it.

[01:15:09] It's that.

[01:15:09] I kind of feel like a dick doing it.

[01:15:10] That's happening.

[01:15:11] That's happening for real at the kickoff?

[01:15:12] Oh yeah.

[01:15:13] No, it's an event.

[01:15:14] And it actually has, like in Vegas, it's set payouts.

[01:15:16] It's like a set payout event.

[01:15:17] Cool.

[01:15:17] Oh, let's go.

[01:15:18] Yeah.

[01:15:18] Nice.

[01:15:19] Yeah.

[01:15:20] Because, yeah, my, I, it was, um, uh, I'm not going to say his name, but he was like,

[01:15:25] dude, they need to bring that back.

[01:15:26] So that way lower rank players can get experience playing with higher rank players.

[01:15:30] And here's the way that, that, that typically happens.

[01:15:33] Okay.

[01:15:33] Yeah.

[01:15:33] Most of the time masters get proposition to play that event and they don't want to, um,

[01:15:38] unless it's with a friend or somebody they have local that they're like, oh, cool.

[01:15:41] That'd be fun to play with you.

[01:15:43] Uh, but that's typically the thing.

[01:15:44] So the, what, what, the reason why it died off is pros stop playing it.

[01:15:48] Masters stopped playing it.

[01:15:50] And, um, it, it, it was replaced by events like handicapped that all of a sudden to everybody,

[01:15:56] if you look at the new, the, the, that's the biggest specialty event.

[01:15:59] And trust me, I have all the statistics.

[01:16:00] Handicap is the new, like open double, you know, really massive.

[01:16:05] It's, it's massive.

[01:16:06] And it's always on a Thursday and it's always on like, oh, yeah, I think a Thursday or

[01:16:10] Wednesday, depending on what, what tournament.

[01:16:11] And it's just massive.

[01:16:13] Everybody plays it.

[01:16:14] And it's because it's a warmup.

[01:16:15] It's a warmup for all the doubles events and everybody feels like they have a shot to

[01:16:19] win it.

[01:16:19] And some handicap is like, it's grown.

[01:16:22] And, and, you know, so we, we've, uh, we bumped the payouts bit on it and, uh, you

[01:16:26] know, it's, it's pretty cool, but, uh, yeah.

[01:16:30] So pro am is it, let's just be like this.

[01:16:34] We can bring it back, but it might just self, you know, self-destruct.

[01:16:38] It might explode.

[01:16:38] It might explode.

[01:16:39] Yeah.

[01:16:40] Yeah.

[01:16:40] Yeah.

[01:16:41] Yeah.

[01:16:41] Yeah.

[01:16:41] I know a lot of people want it.

[01:16:42] The people that want it are the, are, are the amps and the experts and, and, and, and

[01:16:46] I get it.

[01:16:47] I totally get it.

[01:16:48] Right.

[01:16:48] But I mean, the, the master by your partner, Texas state did was maybe a little bit better,

[01:16:53] but the issue with that is, is the masters didn't want to play that either.

[01:16:57] They felt, we felt like we were getting pawned off and bought, you know, there was many times

[01:17:01] I didn't want to play, but I love Steve.

[01:17:02] So I did it for him, you know?

[01:17:03] So, um, and yes, it's a free entry and, and to win actually a decent prize pool, but I

[01:17:09] don't know.

[01:17:10] It's just, you could just, the general vibe was kind of like, eh.

[01:17:13] You were getting pimped out.

[01:17:14] You're getting pimped out.

[01:17:16] Exactly.

[01:17:16] It's like, now it'd be different if somebody would pit, somebody would be like, all right,

[01:17:20] I want, I want 500 on Ryan, but Ryan got half that money.

[01:17:23] Now let's go, you know, I'll play this a bit all day, you know?

[01:17:27] Yeah.

[01:17:28] Yeah.

[01:17:28] So, you know, it's like a play, like, like a play, like a player auction.

[01:17:33] Right.

[01:17:34] Maybe something like that.

[01:17:35] Yeah, kind of.

[01:17:35] I mean, like, like, yeah, it's like, yeah, you're getting pimped out, but you get 50%

[01:17:38] of the proceeds.

[01:17:39] Okay.

[01:17:39] Yeah.

[01:17:39] Yeah.

[01:17:40] So I drive 500 bucks, you know, 250 goes to the pot, 250 goes to me.

[01:17:44] Great.

[01:17:44] Yeah.

[01:17:44] Well, you're, you're, you're, you're the guy in charge.

[01:17:48] You should, I mean, you should talk to the guy in charge.

[01:17:50] Well, that's a trick that, well, we'll, we'll see if they bring it back.

[01:17:53] I actually have it on my list of events of possibilities.

[01:17:56] I have a whole list.

[01:17:57] I even have some crazy ones like, uh, uh, what was the last one?

[01:18:00] I might try to pull it up.

[01:18:01] Uh, I'm like, how come?

[01:18:03] And Brandon, Brandon Moreland said that he's like, oh yeah, I, I, I made that a long time

[01:18:06] ago.

[01:18:07] Uh, uh, uh, cutthroat, a cutthroat tournament with actual three brackets where you, everything's

[01:18:14] a third instead of two brackets.

[01:18:15] It's three brackets that come into a bracket and then three brackets and three brackets

[01:18:19] all the way down to the final.

[01:18:20] You don't cutthroat.

[01:18:23] Uh, it's a three person game.

[01:18:25] Is it?

[01:18:25] And you, and you rotate.

[01:18:27] Yeah.

[01:18:28] You can only score points if you're in singles.

[01:18:30] Oh, that's yes.

[01:18:31] And so every time the double team scores, you switch.

[01:18:35] You switch.

[01:18:35] And I was just like, oh, that's never been done.

[01:18:37] That'd be fun.

[01:18:37] That'd be like a new funsy kind of event, but I don't know.

[01:18:40] And then brackets, brackets of three.

[01:18:43] Yeah.

[01:18:43] I like it.

[01:18:45] Yeah.

[01:18:45] Oh, I like it.

[01:18:46] Yeah.

[01:18:47] Yeah.

[01:18:47] The board was like, yeah, yeah.

[01:18:48] I created that bracket a long time ago.

[01:18:50] And I was like, oh, really?

[01:18:51] I was like, I've never seen that before, but that'd be fun.

[01:18:53] I mean, a lot of people played cutthroat back in the day, but you know, these are all,

[01:18:57] these are all ideas.

[01:18:58] And I, and I think what, what's really happened and what you'll see with my first two tournaments

[01:19:01] is I've really mimicked a lot of what my mom was doing.

[01:19:05] And I made a few adjustments, uh, being that singles is on one day, doubles is on one day.

[01:19:10] They both start early so I can have a finals the same day.

[01:19:14] And, uh, and otherwise I, I mean, I really was like almost mimicking what she did because

[01:19:19] I don't have enough information to make these dramatic changes that could actually, you know,

[01:19:23] hurt foosball.

[01:19:24] Right.

[01:19:25] Um, you know, you, I don't, I think it's, it would be irresponsible for me to reinvent the

[01:19:29] wheel that has kept foosball alive for 30 years with, with zero actual hands-on experience.

[01:19:35] Yeah.

[01:19:35] You know, when I get to the tournaments and I actually am watching these events play out

[01:19:39] and I'm watching the way things happen and I'm strategizing with how I think I could

[01:19:43] do it, I could actually come up with a, with potentially my own formula that would maybe

[01:19:48] make sense.

[01:19:48] And if I don't feel like confident behind it, I'm not going to do it.

[01:19:52] It's just same theory as, you know, getting a sponsor.

[01:19:54] So I'm like, all right, let's get in here.

[01:19:56] Let's figure it out.

[01:19:57] And let's make changes where I know, or I feel strongly that it'll be better.

[01:20:02] You know?

[01:20:03] See, and it's like, you know, we go to these tournaments and we know your mom's like

[01:20:08] in a room in the back and she's probably looking at a screen, just like the one you're looking

[01:20:12] at watching everything, making sure everything's functioning, but we're out there playing going,

[01:20:16] dude, she's probably sitting back there eating filet and lobster, just like whatever.

[01:20:23] You know, but now you, you get to be the one in the back looking at the screen, seeing

[01:20:27] how everything's getting impact.

[01:20:28] No, no.

[01:20:29] I wouldn't, I wouldn't make this very clear that I am not your tournament director.

[01:20:35] You're going to be.

[01:20:35] I'm not your tournament director.

[01:20:37] And what are you going to be doing?

[01:20:38] I'm your host.

[01:20:38] You're going to be there saying what's up?

[01:20:40] The host.

[01:20:40] Face to face.

[01:20:41] You're going to be out there face to face.

[01:20:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:20:43] I'm going to be the hands on.

[01:20:44] I'm going to be your host.

[01:20:45] All right.

[01:20:45] So I'm not directing the tournament.

[01:20:47] That's Donald Wilson.

[01:20:48] He's the one that's going to be directing the tournament.

[01:20:50] He's the one that's going to be overseeing the entire registration team.

[01:20:54] And Josh Sharpie is the one that will be overseeing the table crew set up, tear down maintenance

[01:20:58] team.

[01:20:58] So I have now managers in those positions that I'm talking to mostly.

[01:21:02] I'll be talking to the whole team, but you know, I also have other companies that I'm

[01:21:06] running.

[01:21:07] So I cannot seniorly, you know, this would be a full-time job.

[01:21:11] Shall I not have those people in charge of their divisions?

[01:21:15] I am going to be overseeing the media team to start, but eventually I want to appoint somebody

[01:21:20] the head of the media team once I get it kind of dialed in and find somebody for that position.

[01:21:25] But yeah, my main focus is going to be on hosting the tournament.

[01:21:30] Make sure everybody has a good time, seeing them with weaknesses, trapping them, writing

[01:21:33] them down, taking ideas, you know, throwing bad ones in trash, you know, keeping the new

[01:21:38] ones, making sure things are ran smooth and ran to my liking.

[01:21:42] It's not going to be, you know, I'm not going to be actually looking at screens.

[01:21:44] However, I will say what my mom did is she made sure she ran the brackets.

[01:21:49] So she ran, made sure there wasn't holes being forming in the brackets because that's what

[01:21:54] that's, that's the tournament killer is you get the holes in the brackets and it destroyed

[01:21:57] everything.

[01:21:58] Winterside mainly, but loser side as well.

[01:22:01] Like a hole in the winner side will just demolish a bracket.

[01:22:04] So there's a lot of strategy on how these events run and kind of why you can't have all of them

[01:22:08] start at the same time.

[01:22:10] Um, and that's what she did.

[01:22:12] She was really good at running the brackets because Donald's super busy doing a bunch of

[01:22:15] stuff and you know, all the team's busy.

[01:22:18] Right.

[01:22:18] So sure.

[01:22:19] I'll be peeking into this stuff and just looking at it, but yeah, no, I'm going to be face

[01:22:23] to face.

[01:22:23] Um, you know, there's gonna be a lot of cool little stuff to those, um, that, that will,

[01:22:28] we're going to be doing like pop-up events and stuff that's not on the flyer that'll

[01:22:32] happen.

[01:22:33] Cool.

[01:22:33] Um, and you know, some stuff, this will really start being engaged in Vegas.

[01:22:38] Again, TKO, my, my main thing with TKO, when I want the players to, to, to see and feel

[01:22:44] is a, uh, upgraded environment, an upgraded vibe, um, and a new feel for the tour.

[01:22:51] Like that's, that's what my only goal is.

[01:22:54] That's the only thing I'm trying to implement and honestly learn, learn a lot.

[01:22:57] Vegas is going to be more of an upgraded experience.

[01:23:01] Um, all of what I said before, but I want you to start feeling that it was extremely

[01:23:08] worth it to go to that event and you would never take your money back.

[01:23:11] Like there's still, I think there's situations like, listen, almost everyone loses.

[01:23:15] Okay.

[01:23:16] Almost everybody in the tournament loses.

[01:23:18] And if that's the reason why you're going is strictly because you want to win foosball,

[01:23:22] it's fine.

[01:23:23] But I would love to have, you know, kind of marinate that with a little bit of having a

[01:23:28] good time.

[01:23:29] So it's like, even if you lost, it's like, well, I lost, but that was a freaking awesome

[01:23:33] time.

[01:23:33] Like, that's my key.

[01:23:34] Like, that's what I can do is help you have a good time based on, like I said, the events

[01:23:38] that I do, the activities I add to it, um, pop-up events, uh, orchestrating the schedule

[01:23:45] and the timing of when you're playing, when you're not playing.

[01:23:48] Um, and this is the stuff that kind of will come on board over time, uh, which is all benefit

[01:23:54] for everyone.

[01:23:55] This is not, nobody can get mad at this kind of stuff.

[01:23:57] Like it's all good stuff.

[01:23:58] And that's, that's what I'm really focusing on.

[01:24:00] And then we'll start maybe if we see fit attack in the core architecture of a tournament

[01:24:05] when we're talking about point system changes or, or format changes, or, you know, do we

[01:24:11] go back to double elimination?

[01:24:12] I'm not saying we would, but I'm, you know, is there a world in which that actually makes

[01:24:16] sense?

[01:24:16] No, probably not.

[01:24:18] Um, you know, and, and, and let's be honest.

[01:24:21] I just want to make that clear since me and you've talked about it, Tom, but the reason

[01:24:24] why I'm not doing double elimination for open events and women's and even pros is because

[01:24:30] I have to time the finals.

[01:24:32] Yeah.

[01:24:32] If, if we want, if we want the production and the growth of foosball to happen, I have

[01:24:37] to be able to time the finals, the semifinals, the quarterfinals.

[01:24:40] I have to know relatively when they are.

[01:24:43] And if we're going to actually do what I want to do for a finals, I need a team of like 30

[01:24:48] that are all ready to go.

[01:24:50] Yeah.

[01:24:50] Yeah.

[01:24:51] It's not like I can just run a finals.

[01:24:52] No, we're talking a big team here.

[01:24:55] Right.

[01:24:55] I mean, it's a production.

[01:24:57] That's not something we can just, okay guys, the finals is about to come up.

[01:25:00] It's 10 30 PM.

[01:25:02] Everybody stop what they're doing.

[01:25:03] No, it's like, we know it's at eight o'clock.

[01:25:05] Everybody be, make sure you have your food, go take a shit, come in here and be ready to

[01:25:09] go at eight o'clock.

[01:25:11] Hell yeah.

[01:25:12] Hell yeah.

[01:25:13] Mess and flush all at the same time.

[01:25:14] That's what we have to have in order for this to be executed properly.

[01:25:18] Cause there's a lot going on and I can, I can say this, like we may not execute it properly

[01:25:21] in the first couple of times, you know, uh, it'll be a learning curve here.

[01:25:25] We're talking stuff that we're talking stuff that I can't even describe to you.

[01:25:29] Cause I don't know how to do it.

[01:25:30] I don't know how to do a lot of what I'm talking about right now.

[01:25:33] I have a vision.

[01:25:34] I'll figure it out.

[01:25:36] Yeah.

[01:25:37] Well, I think, I think the blend, like the, the championship format pro and up and double

[01:25:42] elimination expert down.

[01:25:44] I think it's a good mix, man.

[01:25:45] I really, really do.

[01:25:46] I like the championship.

[01:25:48] I do.

[01:25:49] Yeah.

[01:25:49] It achieves both, both goals.

[01:25:51] I know that historically, again, these are the changes, like I said, like the changes that

[01:25:58] make half the field mad versus the ones that don't.

[01:26:02] Um, my whole thing was, is it going to make anyone mad if I take those lower rank events

[01:26:06] back to double elimination?

[01:26:08] No, probably not.

[01:26:09] I mean, maybe a couple of people, but I'm going to make a lot of people happy.

[01:26:12] Right.

[01:26:13] So, okay.

[01:26:14] Um, you know, sure.

[01:26:15] A lot of people might've liked championship format a little better, but they're not going

[01:26:18] to be like, Oh, this sucks.

[01:26:19] I can't believe it's going back to double elimination.

[01:26:21] Right.

[01:26:21] That's what I truly felt.

[01:26:23] And for the events of, of expert down, I didn't have the requirement of half didn't

[01:26:28] know when that finals was because it's not going to be like as, as extremely, you know,

[01:26:34] yeah, it's not going to be a production.

[01:26:35] So that was like, okay, look, there's, I, I, maybe all the players want double elimination

[01:26:41] and open singles and open doubles, but I cannot give it to you because it's for the better

[01:26:45] of our sport, because my vision only comes true.

[01:26:48] If everything is executed for the vision of our sport, like harmoniously, like if we

[01:26:53] can't have these hiccups, like, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[01:26:55] So, so, and there's a big compromise there too, is pro women's and doubles is three out

[01:27:01] of five.

[01:27:02] Everything else is two out of three.

[01:27:03] Um, another really cool thing I did that I've been screaming, why is this not a thing

[01:27:08] is, is every, um, every event, uh, I need to, I don't, I want to clarify, but if it's

[01:27:15] win by two, if the event is a win by two event, then, um, it's one by two unlimited.

[01:27:20] Do you go on unlimited?

[01:27:21] Oh, yeah.

[01:27:22] It's unlimited.

[01:27:23] Yeah.

[01:27:23] That's sick.

[01:27:23] So yeah, there's no, there's no end to this.

[01:27:26] Now you get a win by two and you know, it's not going to, in my opinion, not going to,

[01:27:30] you know, make the tournament run super late or anything.

[01:27:33] It's very rare to get meat nut.

[01:27:35] And, and I think for the, for the, for the, you know, the game, the viewership, I think

[01:27:39] it's more entertaining.

[01:27:40] Oh, it's going to be so exciting.

[01:27:41] You're going to win by two unlimited.

[01:27:43] Yeah.

[01:27:43] Yes.

[01:27:44] I think the way that I did this to try to simplify things is if it's three out of five, it's

[01:27:51] win by two.

[01:27:51] If it's an offensive three out of five, two out of three double elimination or championship

[01:27:55] format, both sides are one by two unlimited.

[01:27:57] If it's single elimination, it's one by two unlimited.

[01:28:01] So even specialty events, if it's double elimination, two out of three, it is not one by two.

[01:28:06] Okay.

[01:28:06] So that, that's the thing.

[01:28:08] So like if it's a big event or if it's single elimination, where if you lose, you're out,

[01:28:13] those are one by two, everything else is not.

[01:28:16] So it's pretty, I'm trying to simplify everything when you look at the format.

[01:28:19] It's like either it's one by two.

[01:28:20] And if it is one by two, it's one by two unlimited.

[01:28:21] There's no one by two to eight.

[01:28:22] That's called scrapped.

[01:28:23] And if it's a two out of three double elimination, it's not one by two.

[01:28:27] Okay.

[01:28:27] There's only two, two routes, you know?

[01:28:30] So that way when people are asking about this, it's that it's always that.

[01:28:34] So be like that for all the 2025 unless we change it in 2026.

[01:28:36] Cool.

[01:28:38] You know, same thing with fees and stuff.

[01:28:40] Yeah.

[01:28:40] You know, entry fees are like for main events, which is like rookie singles doubles all the

[01:28:45] way up.

[01:28:45] It's the same cost for you depending on your rank.

[01:28:48] It doesn't matter what you're playing, you know, all the way up.

[01:28:50] So a rookie is going to pay 20 bucks for rookie.

[01:28:51] You're going to pay 20 bucks for open.

[01:28:53] You know, a master is going to play the same.

[01:28:55] And all I did was a cost average.

[01:28:57] It actually works out the same.

[01:28:58] Some, some people paid a little bit more.

[01:29:01] Some paid a little bit less on the cost average scale based on what people were actually

[01:29:04] buying into per rank.

[01:29:05] Um, so it's not really coming out of people's money per se too much.

[01:29:09] The only thing I did do that was controversial that people don't like, and it is what it

[01:29:12] is.

[01:29:12] It's a, it's a, um, inventory thing is you don't get a ball with registration now.

[01:29:17] However, you get free text messaging.

[01:29:20] Nice.

[01:29:21] Yeah, sure.

[01:29:21] It costs you at the end of the day, it costs you $3 more, um, to, uh, to, to go, to go

[01:29:28] buy a ball.

[01:29:29] But the difference is with the text messaging, people were signing up for it, not paying for

[01:29:33] it and getting kicked out mid tournament and getting forfeited because

[01:29:35] they thought they had text messaging and it didn't sell back.

[01:29:38] That does, that system just does not work.

[01:29:40] Right.

[01:29:41] Um, and also the balls and the wraps were always historically sold at registration.

[01:29:45] And there's no way for me to actually inventory that.

[01:29:47] There's no way for me to know what's happening with the balls and wraps.

[01:29:50] You know, the bag comes up short.

[01:29:51] You get a free ball.

[01:29:52] Some people don't get a free ball.

[01:29:54] There's mysteriously a certain amount of money at the end of the day in the bag.

[01:29:57] And you, the balls are what they are.

[01:29:58] Right.

[01:29:58] So now it's like every ball gets put through a point of sale at the foods gear booth.

[01:30:02] So now we know exactly where every single ball went period.

[01:30:04] Okay.

[01:30:05] So we did that for two purposes.

[01:30:07] It also helps our registration team.

[01:30:09] Now, now people, when they're registering, they're not going to be as bogged down with

[01:30:11] all this little stuff.

[01:30:12] It's like, wham, bam, next, wham, bam, next.

[01:30:15] So it'll, it'll streamline it a little bit when it goes.

[01:30:19] And, you know, also they have an accounting system for their registration that they have

[01:30:23] an accounting system for balls and wraps.

[01:30:25] And it's like, keep, let me make sure the money doesn't go into this registration.

[01:30:28] And you know what I mean?

[01:30:28] It's just, I was just like, okay, no, I don't like any of this.

[01:30:31] No, sorry, players.

[01:30:32] You're going to have to pay $3.

[01:30:33] Call it inflation.

[01:30:34] I mean, shit, it's been a $50 registration for how long now?

[01:30:37] 10 years, 12 years.

[01:30:39] Foosball is the only thing that hasn't inflated.

[01:30:41] Think about it.

[01:30:41] When you go to the board, how much does it cost you to play a game of foosball?

[01:30:45] 75 cents.

[01:30:46] A dollar.

[01:30:47] How long has it been a dollar for, Randy?

[01:30:49] Come on, 75.

[01:30:51] Three quarters.

[01:30:52] 10, 12, 15 years?

[01:30:54] 15 years?

[01:30:54] 15 years.

[01:30:55] 15 years have been a dollar.

[01:30:58] Yeah.

[01:30:59] 75.

[01:30:59] Dude, go to a Dave & Buster's or go to like, I don't know, whatever place.

[01:31:04] Play a game that gets you 30 to 45 seconds of entertainment.

[01:31:08] It's $2.50, bro.

[01:31:09] It's $2.50.

[01:31:10] Oh, yeah.

[01:31:10] Every time you swipe that card at Dave & Buster's.

[01:31:14] Yeah.

[01:31:14] $2.50, and it's over in 30 seconds.

[01:31:17] I'm not necessarily, you know, all I'm saying is a $3 inflation surely shouldn't break anyone's

[01:31:24] pain.

[01:31:25] No.

[01:31:26] Well, so again, the text message.

[01:31:28] So I had a guy throw this at me and he wanted me to bounce it off of you with the text messaging.

[01:31:32] Now that the text messaging is included, right?

[01:31:35] Is there any way you can include like an on-deck option, right?

[01:31:39] So you get a text message saying, hey, your match is coming up.

[01:31:43] Get to this table.

[01:31:44] You're going to be playing and, you know, whatever.

[01:31:47] So maybe we can start eliminating because the recall process that your mom had put in, it

[01:31:54] was 10 minutes.

[01:31:55] And then, you know, you get and I'm fine with the recall process.

[01:31:59] Like I'm in the room, dude.

[01:32:00] I want to play.

[01:32:00] But sometimes you've got to take a dump.

[01:32:02] You go up to your room.

[01:32:04] It's, you know, or you're trying to grab a bite to eat or whatever.

[01:32:07] It's nice to get a message that says, hey, you're up next on this table.

[01:32:11] And you go, okay, you know, I have to be cognitive of the fact that I'm going to be playing in

[01:32:17] a minute so you can make your way over there.

[01:32:20] And then the match gets called up.

[01:32:21] And I was just wondering, because again, dude, I'm not a tech guy.

[01:32:24] I don't know how that works.

[01:32:25] Is that something that could be implemented?

[01:32:27] Is that an option?

[01:32:29] Not at all.

[01:32:30] No.

[01:32:31] No.

[01:32:31] But here's your solution.

[01:32:36] Okay.

[01:32:37] No.

[01:32:37] Hell no.

[01:32:38] Your solution.

[01:32:40] I'll get to the reason why.

[01:32:41] But your solution is what I'm talking about with the organization of events when you know

[01:32:45] you're going to be playing.

[01:32:45] So what I'm hoping to have implemented by Vegas.

[01:32:48] So that'll solve that.

[01:32:49] Because it's like, hey, look, if you're in this event and this event, you're playing for

[01:32:52] the next two hours.

[01:32:54] Yeah.

[01:32:55] And then after that, you're not going to be playing.

[01:32:57] Go take a break.

[01:32:57] Like, this event and this event's going to be playing for the next two hours after that.

[01:33:01] This is just like a thing.

[01:33:02] It could be five events that are playing.

[01:33:04] It could be one event that's playing.

[01:33:05] It depends on how deep the field is, where it's at in the bracket, yada, yada, yada.

[01:33:09] So that is a way to solve what you're talking about.

[01:33:11] It's like, hey, be in the room at this time.

[01:33:16] And again, I don't want to give too much information because I hate saying that I'm going to do

[01:33:20] things and then not do them.

[01:33:21] Maybe because of maybe my theory was wrong or X, Y, Z.

[01:33:24] But that is kind of the way I'm going to try to fix that is by scheduling things a little

[01:33:28] bit, giving you more of a notice of when you're going to be playing.

[01:33:31] The reason why we can't implement that is two things.

[01:33:35] One, software just is a dinosaur software.

[01:33:38] It does exactly what it needs to do.

[01:33:39] It runs the tournament.

[01:33:40] It runs it smoothly.

[01:33:41] It's actually extremely simple on the back end.

[01:33:44] I learned it in 30 minutes.

[01:33:45] The core of it.

[01:33:47] It's teachable to new people that run tournaments super quick.

[01:33:50] I can literally give them access over the phone and talk to them for 30 minutes and they can

[01:33:54] know how to sign people up and run the tournament.

[01:33:57] And that's what it has going for it.

[01:33:59] Mind you, it was created in 2004.

[01:34:02] 20 years old.

[01:34:03] Yeah.

[01:34:04] Yeah.

[01:34:05] And so, so no, to recode it, to do that, it would be hard.

[01:34:09] But the more difficult thing is actually knowing, hey, you're up on deck, but all of a sudden

[01:34:14] your opponent gets called into another match because it was ready to play.

[01:34:17] So you would have to start holding matches the next round of match.

[01:34:21] You'd have to hold it, which necessarily wouldn't be terrible, but you'd have to, there'd

[01:34:26] have to be some brains put into the software.

[01:34:28] It's like, all right, hold this match.

[01:34:30] And we're putting a message out.

[01:34:32] And as soon as this, this match is done on this table, it's this one is playing next.

[01:34:37] And so there, there are ways to do this.

[01:34:39] Like even with the text messaging for like the top players, it's like, hey, you know,

[01:34:43] we know, you know, ninth or the quarterfinals is going to be played at this time.

[01:34:49] We're benching everybody so they don't play.

[01:34:51] Hey, you're going to be up on these matches.

[01:34:52] And we can have that for the top players.

[01:34:55] And we are going to, the top players are going to get favoritism.

[01:34:59] They're going to get it.

[01:35:00] You know why?

[01:35:00] Because they're the best players in the freaking world.

[01:35:02] And they put in all the time to do it.

[01:35:04] Yep.

[01:35:05] Okay.

[01:35:05] But the favoritism is not going to be the sense of, or breaking the rules.

[01:35:09] The favoritism is going to be an additional concierge service that's going to go out to

[01:35:14] them because they are the best players in the world.

[01:35:16] Hey, you've achieved the master status.

[01:35:18] We are going to treat you like royalty.

[01:35:20] Cool.

[01:35:21] So guess what?

[01:35:22] You get called up in a match, you're going to get a personal call or a personal text from

[01:35:25] somebody on the registration team.

[01:35:27] Little things like this.

[01:35:28] That's what's up.

[01:35:29] You know what I mean?

[01:35:29] That's what's up.

[01:35:30] Yeah, yeah.

[01:35:30] So, you know, we're going to try to figure out how to implement all this and strategically

[01:35:36] implement it.

[01:35:36] But when a master gets on recall, we're going to be calling them.

[01:35:41] You know, it's not like we're going to just let them forfeit.

[01:35:43] It's like, hey, dude, we tried to call you, bro.

[01:35:45] Yeah, you didn't do the rules.

[01:35:47] You forfeited because it's been 14 minutes, just like everybody else did.

[01:35:51] But we called you.

[01:35:52] Other people don't get that luxury.

[01:35:54] We called you.

[01:35:54] We tried.

[01:35:55] You know what I mean?

[01:35:56] So little things like that is what's going to be perked out.

[01:35:59] But my goal is to solve that through scheduling more so than it is through, you know, software

[01:36:07] and the dinosaur software.

[01:36:08] And this is also on the table, not a guarantee, but we are working on potentially doing something

[01:36:14] with software.

[01:36:15] So we'll know more about that by TKO.

[01:36:18] Nice.

[01:36:18] Yeah.

[01:36:19] We'll be all ears when it comes to that, especially when it comes to just the experience of being

[01:36:25] there at a tournament.

[01:36:26] How does that go?

[01:36:28] And how easy is it to be there?

[01:36:31] The other question I wanted to throw at you because you mentioned it during your announcement

[01:36:35] last week.

[01:36:36] What about dress code?

[01:36:38] What's going on with that?

[01:36:40] Yeah, it's a good question.

[01:36:41] You know, I actually got some grief from some people on there like, oh, great implementation

[01:36:45] of your dress code.

[01:36:47] What a sourpuss.

[01:36:48] You only do it for 9 through 12.

[01:36:49] Not everyone.

[01:36:51] All right.

[01:36:51] Well, let's talk about it.

[01:36:52] Let's get into the weeds of this, right?

[01:36:54] Again, my goal is to not alienate the tour.

[01:36:57] My goal is to not change everything overnight.

[01:36:59] Okay?

[01:37:00] What I need is I need professionalism from any master or any top person that's going to

[01:37:04] be heavily pushed on media.

[01:37:06] Okay?

[01:37:06] Anybody that's going to be WFT media and we're going to be heavily pushing you, you

[01:37:10] got to look professional.

[01:37:11] Everyone else, I'm not going to tell a beginner, hey, you entered open singles and open doubles.

[01:37:15] You have to be matching and spend, you know, 80 bucks on shirts or else you can't enter.

[01:37:19] Oh, okay.

[01:37:19] Well, I just want to enter rookies.

[01:37:22] You have to be like this.

[01:37:23] They know they're not going to be in 9th through 12th at Worlds.

[01:37:26] So they're just not going to enter the event.

[01:37:28] And now our attendance in the event goes way down.

[01:37:31] And now we actually have a reverse because I implemented a dress code.

[01:37:35] Now, that's not to say that we say this.

[01:37:38] It's encouraged.

[01:37:38] We want everybody to be dressed up because if you're dressed up, you're more likely to

[01:37:42] be spotted by WFT media and you're more likely to get exposure.

[01:37:46] That's going to be the way that we're going to push this.

[01:37:48] We're not going to be showing some dude that's got holes and his hair's all ratty.

[01:37:54] You know what I mean?

[01:37:54] I'm sorry.

[01:37:55] You're not going to be shown.

[01:37:56] You know, if you look like a bum off the street, you're not going to be shown on WFT

[01:38:00] media.

[01:38:01] No Grateful Dead t-shirts.

[01:38:01] The people that are sporty, that are having a good time, that are really trying.

[01:38:05] The people that show passion for foosball.

[01:38:08] You're the ones that's going to be highlighted.

[01:38:10] Okay?

[01:38:10] So, in my opinion, I think people like even myself will naturally want to gravitate towards

[01:38:16] a more professional look just to be a part of the greater good of something.

[01:38:20] Right?

[01:38:22] But, you know, this also comes into the big debate, you know, of is foosball a sport?

[01:38:26] Is foosball a game?

[01:38:27] And I always tell people it is the gamiest sport you'll ever see and it's the sportiest game

[01:38:32] you'll ever see.

[01:38:34] I mean, that's the bottom line.

[01:38:36] I don't really care what you call it.

[01:38:37] It doesn't matter to me.

[01:38:38] It's foosball.

[01:38:40] Okay?

[01:38:40] I don't care if you call it a sport.

[01:38:41] I don't care if you call it a game.

[01:38:42] It doesn't hurt my feelings.

[01:38:43] You know, we represent it on a daily as a sport because it is, by definition, more

[01:38:48] of a sport than it is a game.

[01:38:50] When you look at, you know, offensive defense, you know, physical activity, yada, yada, yada,

[01:38:55] strategy, blah, blah, blah.

[01:38:56] It defines more like a game is like a board game.

[01:38:59] Well, you're not sweating when you play Monopoly unless you're playing for real cash, not

[01:39:03] paying cash, but you might be sweating.

[01:39:05] But as a definition, it is more of a sport than it is a game.

[01:39:09] So we call it a sport for that reason.

[01:39:10] I don't care if you call it a game.

[01:39:12] It's foosball.

[01:39:13] That's what it is.

[01:39:14] And it's really the whole image of, quote unquote, sport versus game.

[01:39:19] If you see it on streaming or you see it, you know, in a public forum of some kind of media

[01:39:25] coverage, if it looks good, it is good.

[01:39:29] Plain and simple.

[01:39:30] Yeah, yeah.

[01:39:31] Well, yeah.

[01:39:32] And that's it.

[01:39:32] You know, we don't want to.

[01:39:34] We're not going to show people that are, you know, have a naked girl on their shirt and

[01:39:37] stuff like that.

[01:39:38] And, you know, it's just it's just, you know, so it's encouraged.

[01:39:42] We're going to really highlight the top teams.

[01:39:45] That'll be one of the reels we do.

[01:39:47] The top dress teams in the game.

[01:39:48] You know, it's like, was it Rich Cotter?

[01:39:51] I think a Rich Cotter message like, oh, I can't wear this.

[01:39:53] I said, dude, you shake your head.

[01:39:55] I said, no, dude, bro, wear exactly what you did.

[01:39:58] We might actually get that because it's entertaining.

[01:40:00] You know, he is shining.

[01:40:03] Always shining.

[01:40:04] No question.

[01:40:05] But that's OK.

[01:40:06] He's a personality.

[01:40:07] And like, yeah, you know, I'm sorry.

[01:40:09] But I actually I think that that's a good thing.

[01:40:11] You're showing like so much diversity in foosball that you could appeal to everybody.

[01:40:15] Somebody could watch the video.

[01:40:17] Oh, that guy appeals to me.

[01:40:18] That's kind of like me, you know, and like, oh, this is cool.

[01:40:21] Everybody.

[01:40:21] You know what I mean?

[01:40:21] There's a story here.

[01:40:23] Right.

[01:40:23] There's a reason why we all are still in this game.

[01:40:26] Yeah.

[01:40:28] Until we die, we're all going to be playing foosball or at least thinking about it.

[01:40:32] If there's a reason, it's because it is that magical.

[01:40:34] It is that addicting.

[01:40:36] It is that it's that fun.

[01:40:38] I mean, you're able to completely get on a foosball table and the whole world stops.

[01:40:43] The only thing you're thinking about is foosball.

[01:40:45] That's it.

[01:40:46] So like if you're stressed out or this and that, you get on the damn table and blast some

[01:40:49] balls and have some fun.

[01:40:50] You know, it's a head changer.

[01:40:52] Right.

[01:40:52] So you said it right there.

[01:40:54] Why we play foosball.

[01:40:55] You said there's something there.

[01:40:56] Yeah.

[01:40:56] And all it is, is we've not been able to success successfully fit that into a video format

[01:41:01] that people get engaged with.

[01:41:03] That's it.

[01:41:04] Well, it's happening now.

[01:41:06] Yeah, it's happening now.

[01:41:08] I love it.

[01:41:08] I love this.

[01:41:09] I love the shorts that Clay puts out, man.

[01:41:11] Again, and he's and he's been he's been dropping a video every day.

[01:41:15] Now he's in world.

[01:41:17] He's at the end of mixed.

[01:41:18] And I'm every day.

[01:41:19] I mean, I'm man.

[01:41:21] I love the stuff.

[01:41:22] I love what he's putting out.

[01:41:23] So now.

[01:41:26] Doing great.

[01:41:27] Now we have a shirt.

[01:41:28] We have a shirt you're wearing.

[01:41:30] Solid.

[01:41:31] Yeah.

[01:41:32] If somebody wants this brand.

[01:41:34] I'm sorry.

[01:41:35] I didn't create it.

[01:41:36] So tell me this brand isn't just.

[01:41:37] It's amazing.

[01:41:38] Right.

[01:41:38] It's beautiful.

[01:41:39] It's beautiful.

[01:41:40] Yeah.

[01:41:40] It's beautiful.

[01:41:41] It's everything you want a brand to be.

[01:41:42] And that's why, you know, I spent the $20,000 to create us a brand new brand that can we actually can take mainstream.

[01:41:49] You know, I said how much it's been on this.

[01:41:51] I didn't send 20 grand on this.

[01:41:53] I spent 20 grand on the actual brand and everything else that we're creating.

[01:41:56] Dang.

[01:41:58] There's a reason.

[01:41:59] Okay.

[01:41:59] There's a reason why we do this, because this is the foundation of everything we're trying to create.

[01:42:05] This is the foundation of our vision.

[01:42:07] You know, who was my sister was like, she's like, could you have made that logo?

[01:42:12] And that's like, no way.

[01:42:13] Like, you don't understand.

[01:42:14] Like, it looks simple, but it's actually in so many different ways.

[01:42:18] Amazing.

[01:42:18] You know what I mean?

[01:42:19] And this wasn't created overnight.

[01:42:21] This wasn't.

[01:42:22] Oh, yeah.

[01:42:23] Very eye catching.

[01:42:24] Right.

[01:42:25] So if I want.

[01:42:26] If I want to get a shirt or a hoodie, where do I go?

[01:42:29] Straight to the website?

[01:42:30] Tor kickoff.

[01:42:31] Tor kickoff.

[01:42:32] Nope.

[01:42:32] Nope.

[01:42:32] Tor kickoff.

[01:42:34] It's just like the foosball cards.

[01:42:36] It won't be released on online until after Tor kickoff.

[01:42:40] So the first take to get it is going to be at Tor kickoff.

[01:42:42] We're going to have a bunch of stuff.

[01:42:43] Dude, the Foos Gear booth is about to get a complete makeover.

[01:42:46] We've streamlined the entire process.

[01:42:48] It was a bit of a long waiting game and this and that.

[01:42:51] But we're about to have, like, we know this merch is going to fly because it's just such a beautiful brand.

[01:42:55] And the bigger it gets and the more people.

[01:42:58] I'm telling you, man, there's some substance.

[01:43:00] This brand is the foosball players.

[01:43:02] You know what I mean?

[01:43:03] It's all of us creating what we've always wanted.

[01:43:06] Right.

[01:43:06] That's what's really cool about this.

[01:43:07] And I don't look like this is my company.

[01:43:09] I look like it's our company that we're just we're about to actually bit foosball on the mat.

[01:43:13] And so there's going to be some attachment to this to this logo.

[01:43:16] And it's not just this one.

[01:43:17] There's a whole list of logos around it.

[01:43:20] But so what we did is we wanted to simplify the Foos Gear booth to be able to give people what they want, which sometimes for a lot of people is I want to go look at a shirt, like it and buy it.

[01:43:29] So we're going to have that.

[01:43:30] There's still going to be some customization like your name and this and that.

[01:43:33] But we're not going to be doing so heavy on the customization where we make the shirt on the spot.

[01:43:37] We actually able to we're buying a semi truck.

[01:43:41] OK, we're buying a semi truck in a trailer and we're able to now have this inventory on a pallet on hand at all the majors.

[01:43:48] Like the biggest reason why Foos Gear wasn't able to do this in the past is because you know how it works with the T-shirts.

[01:43:53] There's a million sizes, a million colors and a million types.

[01:43:56] The inventory is just insane.

[01:43:57] Well, we found that we found a hack with Foos Gear where we would only have we buy all the shirt inventory and then we would actually print it and make it on hand.

[01:44:07] And whatever we didn't use, we would send back and get our money back.

[01:44:10] We had no we had no inventory.

[01:44:12] We had zero inventory.

[01:44:13] We were actually able to make money as a shirt business because we had no inventory.

[01:44:16] If you had inventory, you lose it because a lot of times you make a bunch of one type of shirt and nobody buys it.

[01:44:21] You're like, well, what do I do with it?

[01:44:22] You throw it in the trash.

[01:44:23] Right.

[01:44:23] You give it away.

[01:44:24] Toilet paper.

[01:44:25] But we found we found a business hack that allowed to work.

[01:44:28] But now we found a way like now it's even more important.

[01:44:31] It's like this shirt is going to sell forever.

[01:44:34] Oh, yeah.

[01:44:34] Forever sell.

[01:44:35] So we can now buy inventory on this, throw it on the semi truck because we have the extra space now and take it from major to major and even all the regionals.

[01:44:42] This will be, you know, at all the tournaments.

[01:44:44] Dude, and think about it.

[01:44:46] When you're out anywhere and you see somebody wearing that shirt, it's like, dude, that's a foosball player.

[01:44:52] An official.

[01:44:53] Yeah.

[01:44:53] Yeah.

[01:44:53] It's official.

[01:44:54] You know what I mean?

[01:44:55] Yeah.

[01:44:55] Yeah.

[01:44:56] Look, dude.

[01:44:57] One.

[01:44:57] You don't look at it and go, that looks like a minor lease, bro.

[01:44:59] That looks like a major league.

[01:45:00] Yeah.

[01:45:00] The real deal.

[01:45:01] That's because it was created by a guy that rebrands major league baseball teams.

[01:45:05] There you go.

[01:45:06] There you go.

[01:45:07] Dude.

[01:45:10] I was.

[01:45:11] I was out to dinner with my wife one night.

[01:45:13] I had a foos gear hat on.

[01:45:16] I had a foos gear hat on sitting there eating and rest in peace, Daniel Coulter.

[01:45:20] But he was working as a waiter in a restaurant in Alabama.

[01:45:25] He was like, dude.

[01:45:29] He said, I saw the hat.

[01:45:31] I didn't know it was you.

[01:45:32] Gave him a hug.

[01:45:33] But again, saw the hat.

[01:45:35] Right?

[01:45:35] He just saw.

[01:45:36] He said, that's a foos gear hat.

[01:45:37] And again, the symbol, the shirt, the logo, all of it.

[01:45:42] When you see somebody from across the street and you go, dude, that's a world foosball

[01:45:46] tour shirt.

[01:45:46] Yeah.

[01:45:47] That's a foosball player.

[01:45:47] It's a memorable image.

[01:45:49] And that's what it's all about.

[01:45:51] Yeah.

[01:45:52] I'm telling you.

[01:45:53] It's brand recognition, man.

[01:45:55] People are going to see that thing and it's going to go.

[01:45:57] Foosball.

[01:45:58] Foosball.

[01:45:58] Let's go.

[01:45:59] It had to be simple.

[01:46:00] It had to say foosball.

[01:46:02] It had to be major league.

[01:46:04] That's what we were for.

[01:46:07] And that's exactly what this is.

[01:46:09] You know what I mean?

[01:46:10] It was really cool when we went through the branding process because it's like he has

[01:46:13] no clue what my vision is on a brand.

[01:46:15] Right?

[01:46:15] So he's literally giving me like a brand matrix.

[01:46:18] Like, do you want it to be professional or, you know, or modern or nostalgic?

[01:46:24] Do you want it to be professional or like fun, like video gaming?

[01:46:28] You end up finding a spot on the matrix that you want yours.

[01:46:31] Want yours.

[01:46:31] And he has like, you know, like here's look brands that did this category.

[01:46:36] Here's brands that did this category.

[01:46:37] And he explained to me exactly the way they start formulating things.

[01:46:40] And I was just like, holy crap.

[01:46:41] All right.

[01:46:41] Cool.

[01:46:41] So we went through the motion, dude.

[01:46:43] And the very first round of five images, he gave me something that looked like this,

[01:46:47] but it wasn't this.

[01:46:48] It was, it looked like it was like a perfect square.

[01:46:50] It looked like an app almost, which is why we went away from it.

[01:46:52] Okay.

[01:46:53] Okay.

[01:46:53] And we modified it to this final version, dude.

[01:46:56] And I mean, he, he's just, he's just an artist.

[01:46:59] I mean, that's beautiful.

[01:47:01] Dude, it's beautiful.

[01:47:02] Look, I want my vision and put it on a shirt.

[01:47:05] I'm just like, dude, that's amazing.

[01:47:06] You know what I mean?

[01:47:06] Well, I want to, I want to tell you what's going on in the chat right now.

[01:47:09] Okay.

[01:47:10] Somebody saying they're going to put that thing on their back.

[01:47:13] They're saying they're going to do a whole full back tattoo.

[01:47:15] Tattoo.

[01:47:16] World football tour.

[01:47:17] Yeah.

[01:47:17] Okay.

[01:47:18] Hey, look, this logo ain't changing.

[01:47:20] I'll tell you that this is decades worth of logo here.

[01:47:23] This is something that's going to last time.

[01:47:24] Cause that's what we talked about.

[01:47:25] Hey, that dude does it.

[01:47:27] You know, we'll, we'll, we'll give them free, free, uh, free entry fees and registration

[01:47:30] to whatever tournament you want.

[01:47:31] Yeah.

[01:47:32] Really?

[01:47:32] Cause your wife's in here saying free entry fees for life.

[01:47:36] Oh, hell no.

[01:47:37] Hell no.

[01:47:40] Why?

[01:47:40] Give it away.

[01:47:41] No problem.

[01:47:42] Only Mary Moore, Mary Moore, Todd Lafredo and Dusty Baminet get free entry fees for life.

[01:47:48] That's all.

[01:47:49] I guess my wife may be mean.

[01:47:52] Well, I'm not, I'm not really playing much, but yeah.

[01:47:55] Yeah.

[01:47:55] So no, no, absolutely.

[01:47:57] Dude.

[01:47:57] He wants to come to worlds.

[01:47:58] All everything on me, bro.

[01:48:00] Put that across your back.

[01:48:01] Well, maybe not.

[01:48:02] No, you just have to cut out your shirt.

[01:48:04] I don't know what he looks like, but maybe we don't take your shirt off.

[01:48:06] Right.

[01:48:06] Let's go.

[01:48:08] So we can, he said we could talk about it.

[01:48:10] It would have to be, it would have to be more than one major, more than one major.

[01:48:14] He said more than one.

[01:48:15] So he's, he wants to negotiate.

[01:48:18] Yeah.

[01:48:19] Across your back.

[01:48:20] All right.

[01:48:21] If it's a true tattoo, not a fake one, I'll give you all four majors free for one year.

[01:48:26] Look at that.

[01:48:27] Yeah.

[01:48:28] Look at that.

[01:48:28] Yeah.

[01:48:29] Hey, and somebody, somebody's trying to say, somebody's trying to say Isabel will do the

[01:48:33] tattoo.

[01:48:33] So.

[01:48:34] We will.

[01:48:35] Absolutely.

[01:48:36] See, let's go.

[01:48:37] Let's go.

[01:48:38] Let's go.

[01:48:38] You guys need the CMYK colors to make it perfect.

[01:48:42] No problem.

[01:48:43] Janky ass tattoos out there.

[01:48:48] Oh, dude.

[01:48:49] The brand.

[01:48:50] That's what it's all about.

[01:48:51] Ryan, you're a busy guy.

[01:48:54] And I don't know how you do it, but you know, we're so glad that you did take some time to,

[01:48:58] to really sit down and just, just jaw this out, man.

[01:49:01] Cause there's so, so many questions and you can't answer all these questions yet.

[01:49:05] We got to, we got to wait another year.

[01:49:07] You know, we got to do this in a year and say, okay, this is how things went and how things,

[01:49:10] how things are looking now.

[01:49:12] But man, I, this is, this is so entertaining.

[01:49:15] Now you and I had a discussion before this all took place tonight.

[01:49:19] About.

[01:49:19] It's time.

[01:49:20] I was about to say, you're not wrapping this thing up until we do something.

[01:49:23] That, and just to, just to give a little background way back when a couple of years ago, uh, at,

[01:49:29] uh, at the tornado championships during, uh, the open singles event, uh, Jim Stevens had to leave

[01:49:35] early.

[01:49:36] So they shoved the microphone in my hand to, uh, to do the intro for the, uh, for the, for the,

[01:49:41] uh, for the, for the, for the event.

[01:49:43] And so I had a little taste of that.

[01:49:45] And that's, uh, I've been practicing a little bit and I have a little, little script written

[01:49:48] up here so I can, uh, give you a sample.

[01:49:51] Before you do this, I want, I want people to, to, to understand the real, the real magnitude

[01:49:55] of this.

[01:49:56] Okay.

[01:49:56] We are officially in tryout mode.

[01:50:00] If Tom Robinson is going to be the introduction manager of all of our finals on the world

[01:50:07] foosball tour.

[01:50:08] Now, I just want to be honest with you, Tom.

[01:50:11] Okay.

[01:50:11] Listen, if, if you're not quite what I see as the right person, I'll be respectful and

[01:50:16] say, uh, it just doesn't cut it brother.

[01:50:17] Okay.

[01:50:18] You're going to need, you need to be dressed up nice.

[01:50:20] You're going to be presentable.

[01:50:21] You know what I mean?

[01:50:22] Hair slicked up in the air, like Justin Bieber.

[01:50:24] You know, I don't have that luxury, but, uh, and, uh, I mean, let's see it, buddy.

[01:50:29] Let's see what you got.

[01:50:30] How about a Mohawk?

[01:50:31] Can I do a Mohawk?

[01:50:32] Would that be okay?

[01:50:34] Yeah.

[01:50:35] As long as there's world football tour tattoos right here.

[01:50:39] I got some ideas, you know?

[01:50:41] All right.

[01:50:42] So, uh, uh, uh, hold on.

[01:50:48] Let me practice.

[01:50:49] You need to be like Bruce Buffer.

[01:50:50] Start, dude, you know, Bruce Buffer, he's like jumping up and down doing jumping jacks.

[01:50:54] Getting ready, dude.

[01:50:55] He's getting ready.

[01:50:56] You know, I went to the UFC, man.

[01:50:58] That was one of the biggest highlights of that, of that UFC event.

[01:51:02] UFC event was, uh, Bruce Buffer, dude.

[01:51:06] I mean, that dude, just his intense seasons.

[01:51:09] I've got to, I've got to take some lessons for sure.

[01:51:11] And I, you got, you got, dude, you got.

[01:51:14] I bar set right now.

[01:51:15] And it, it, it, listen, you know, we'll give it a shot.

[01:51:18] We'll, we'll, we'll see how it goes, but.

[01:51:19] All right.

[01:51:20] Okay.

[01:51:20] Don't take offense.

[01:51:21] Don't take offense if, if, if you're not the right one.

[01:51:24] None.

[01:51:24] It's okay.

[01:51:25] Hey, listen, I auditioned for, for Rob, for many, many parts that I didn't get in my, in my career as a voice actor.

[01:51:30] So that, and I never take offense, you know, it's, that's, that's, it's built in.

[01:51:34] It's not part of my ego.

[01:51:36] Well, maybe a little, but.

[01:51:38] Maybe a little.

[01:51:39] A little bit.

[01:51:40] All right.

[01:51:41] So I'm going to turn my microphone down.

[01:51:42] Just hold on a sec.

[01:51:44] Are you ready?

[01:51:45] Are you ready?

[01:51:47] I barely hear you, but that's okay.

[01:51:49] All right.

[01:51:50] All right.

[01:51:51] Here we go.

[01:51:54] And now before your very eyes and the entire foosball world, the world foosball tour presents for the very first time ever.

[01:52:06] The tornado championship open singles finals.

[01:52:14] Did I pass?

[01:52:16] Is that it?

[01:52:17] Oh, you want me to go?

[01:52:18] Okay.

[01:52:19] Hold on.

[01:52:20] Yeah.

[01:52:20] Yeah.

[01:52:20] Don't, don't turn the mic down.

[01:52:22] Don't turn the mic down.

[01:52:23] Leave it up.

[01:52:25] Hey, hey.

[01:52:26] Oh, by the way, Munoz is playing Tommy Uri.

[01:52:28] You're going to introduce the sides.

[01:52:29] Oh, yeah.

[01:52:30] Gotcha.

[01:52:31] Oh, it's top.

[01:52:32] Tom.

[01:52:32] Don't turn the mic down.

[01:52:33] Don't turn the mic down.

[01:52:34] All right.

[01:52:35] All right.

[01:52:36] Here we go.

[01:52:38] This will be a foosball battle royale.

[01:52:43] White knuckle, mano-a-mano, slugfest.

[01:52:47] Let's get down to business.

[01:52:50] Introducing our foosball warriors.

[01:52:53] Hailing from the great state of Oklahoma, let's put it together for the number one singles player of the tour, Ryan Moore.

[01:53:03] He already screwed up.

[01:53:04] It's Brandon and Tommy.

[01:53:06] No, no, no.

[01:53:07] It's okay.

[01:53:07] He has it on paper.

[01:53:08] Let's let him go.

[01:53:10] Oh, okay.

[01:53:10] Okay.

[01:53:11] All right.

[01:53:11] All right.

[01:53:12] Sorry, Tom.

[01:53:12] It's on paper.

[01:53:13] All right.

[01:53:14] So we got you on stage now.

[01:53:16] And people are going nuts.

[01:53:17] It's crazy.

[01:53:18] The place is just falling apart because Ryan Moore's stepping up to the table.

[01:53:22] Stepping up.

[01:53:22] Okay.

[01:53:23] Okay.

[01:53:23] Here we go.

[01:53:24] And now, hailing from the great state of Florida, seated number two singles player of the world,

[01:53:32] please welcome Tommy.

[01:53:40] That was good.

[01:53:41] That was good.

[01:53:43] I love it.

[01:53:44] It's like one of those things.

[01:53:45] It's like, is he ever going to stop?

[01:53:47] I was.

[01:53:47] Yeah, that was good.

[01:53:49] First thing, Randy.

[01:53:50] What'd you say?

[01:53:51] What do you think, man?

[01:53:53] What do you think overall?

[01:53:54] Not just the ending.

[01:53:55] What do you think?

[01:53:55] No.

[01:53:56] So again, I've been doing this show with Tom for a while now.

[01:54:02] I think Tom, Tom, Tom's not just a pretty voice.

[01:54:04] He's not just another pretty voice.

[01:54:06] I think, Tom, do it again, but this time don't try.

[01:54:11] Just talk.

[01:54:12] Because you have such a beautiful voice, Tom.

[01:54:15] Don't force it.

[01:54:16] Don't force it.

[01:54:17] Just announce it.

[01:54:18] Just talk.

[01:54:19] Like, talk sexy to me, Tom.

[01:54:23] Just announce it.

[01:54:25] Just announce it.

[01:54:26] If you want it this way, I got it.

[01:54:28] Oh, there it is.

[01:54:29] Okay.

[01:54:29] Now I want to see what's going to happen.

[01:54:31] Okay.

[01:54:31] Yeah.

[01:54:33] And now, before your very eyes and the entire foosball world,

[01:54:38] the World Foosball Tour presents, for the very first time ever,

[01:54:43] the Tornado Championship Open Singles Finals.

[01:54:48] That's all right.

[01:54:49] That's all right.

[01:54:50] I like it.

[01:54:50] That's good.

[01:54:51] You go on.

[01:54:52] Everybody's got different tastes.

[01:54:53] All right.

[01:54:54] Yeah, yeah.

[01:54:56] This will be a foosball battle royale, white knuckle, mono-e-mono slugfest.

[01:55:03] Let's get down to business.

[01:55:05] Introducing our foosball warriors.

[01:55:08] Hailing from the great state of Oklahoma, let's put it together

[01:55:11] for the number one singles player on the tour, Ryan Moore.

[01:55:19] If you mix the way you did it before with that one, you know,

[01:55:24] just kind of scale your voice a little bit.

[01:55:26] When you say the names.

[01:55:27] When you say the names.

[01:55:28] Okay.

[01:55:29] Sort of like.

[01:55:30] The optic, I think, would be really nice.

[01:55:32] Like, you have this deep through Tom voice,

[01:55:35] and the optic gets up when it gets really exciting,

[01:55:38] I think would be a really good mix.

[01:55:40] Cool.

[01:55:40] Go ahead with Tommy.

[01:55:41] Keep going.

[01:55:41] Okay.

[01:55:41] So.

[01:55:45] And now, hailing from the great state of Florida,

[01:55:49] seated the number two singles player on the tour,

[01:55:52] please welcome Tommy, your.

[01:55:57] Tommy, Tom.

[01:55:58] Oh, that one.

[01:55:59] Okay.

[01:56:00] Please welcome Tommy.

[01:56:02] Yo.

[01:56:05] Yeah.

[01:56:06] He tried a little too hard, but yeah.

[01:56:08] You see what I think?

[01:56:09] Hey, hey, we're getting there.

[01:56:10] I like it.

[01:56:11] Yeah.

[01:56:11] I like it.

[01:56:12] I mean, considering this is the first time he's done it,

[01:56:14] I like it.

[01:56:15] Yeah.

[01:56:16] Okay.

[01:56:16] Yeah.

[01:56:16] Yeah.

[01:56:17] Here's what I want from you, Tom.

[01:56:19] Okay.

[01:56:19] I think I've seen enough to say, all right,

[01:56:22] let's do TKO.

[01:56:24] Okay.

[01:56:24] Let's see how it goes.

[01:56:25] All right.

[01:56:26] And, and then we'll go from there.

[01:56:27] I think so.

[01:56:28] Cool.

[01:56:29] And then, uh, fair enough.

[01:56:30] You know, I, I think we can, there's going to be some audition,

[01:56:32] you know, some talking, you know,

[01:56:34] I want you to feel really uncomfortable when you do it to me.

[01:56:37] Cause that way, that way,

[01:56:39] when you actually get in front of everybody,

[01:56:40] it'll be a lot easier.

[01:56:41] It's like, well, hell,

[01:56:42] I'm feeling real weird.

[01:56:44] This will be easy.

[01:56:46] There you go.

[01:56:46] No, it's, it's, uh, uh,

[01:56:48] as long as I don't get laryngitis or something like that,

[01:56:51] you know, I'm, I'm down for it.

[01:56:52] Absolutely.

[01:56:53] If you get laryngitis, I'll do, I'll do it, Tom.

[01:56:55] Don't worry about it, man.

[01:56:56] I did the entire Michigan state with laryngitis.

[01:56:59] So, you know, Oh, that sucked.

[01:57:02] But what are you going to do?

[01:57:03] It's the finals.

[01:57:04] Are you going to be able to make it to TKO?

[01:57:06] Oh yeah.

[01:57:07] Oh yeah.

[01:57:07] We're making it.

[01:57:08] I'm talking to the,

[01:57:09] talking to the boss this week and we're going to,

[01:57:11] we're going to take care of it for sure.

[01:57:12] For sure.

[01:57:13] Good deal.

[01:57:14] Yeah.

[01:57:16] Oh, it's a good deal.

[01:57:17] All right, Tom.

[01:57:18] It sounds good, buddy.

[01:57:19] Yeah.

[01:57:19] Passed the first test.

[01:57:20] Okay.

[01:57:20] Which is actually boring.

[01:57:24] Yeah.

[01:57:24] Now we just got to dial you in.

[01:57:26] I'm going to,

[01:57:26] I'm going to send you to some voice coach and dial you.

[01:57:28] Oh, voice coach.

[01:57:29] That's a little.

[01:57:30] That's a little.

[01:57:32] You send me to me.

[01:57:34] I'm a voice coach.

[01:57:36] Wow.

[01:57:37] Okay.

[01:57:38] Oh, that's a weird, buddy.

[01:57:40] See, again, don't we go.

[01:57:41] It's whatever.

[01:57:42] Four weeks.

[01:57:43] We're four weeks away.

[01:57:44] That's right.

[01:57:44] You got time to practice, Tom.

[01:57:46] You got time to practice.

[01:57:46] So, Brian, what are you going to be doing the next four weeks?

[01:57:49] What's your top priority to get done before this whole thing unfolds?

[01:57:54] This is fun.

[01:57:54] Yeah, we haven't talked about this.

[01:57:56] You know, the number one thing to figure out is this grapevine I've been talking about.

[01:58:01] And if the grapevine has fruit on it, then everything changes.

[01:58:05] But if it doesn't have fruit in, everything's still fine.

[01:58:07] It's just a different path.

[01:58:08] So I got to see if there's fruit on the grapevine first.

[01:58:12] Once that's finalized, then no matter what, actually, the first thing I'm doing tomorrow

[01:58:19] is I'm actually buying our finals area.

[01:58:21] So I have this.

[01:58:24] It's going to be awesome, guys.

[01:58:27] In Kentucky, I can only show you a piece of it.

[01:58:30] But we have a brand new finals area that we're creating.

[01:58:32] Cool.

[01:58:32] And so it's anywhere from, oh, geez, like, I don't know, 25.

[01:58:40] I had it somewhere here.

[01:58:41] But it's like, it doesn't really matter.

[01:58:44] I don't even know why I'm being so analytical about it.

[01:58:47] It's anywhere from 2,500 square foot to 4,000 square foot, like I said, depending on the seating

[01:58:54] capacity.

[01:58:55] Okay?

[01:58:56] So historically, a lot of tournaments are 4,000 square foot.

[01:58:59] And our finals area is going to be that.

[01:59:02] Wow.

[01:59:02] So...

[01:59:03] Maybe.

[01:59:04] Not for TKO and not for Vegas.

[01:59:08] But if we can stack the stands or pack the stands, we'll do it.

[01:59:13] So that's it.

[01:59:14] That's actually the funnest part about this is we're building a finals area.

[01:59:20] So completely built up.

[01:59:21] And it's going to be like, you're going to know it's the World of Foosball Tour when

[01:59:24] you see that finals area because it's going to be like, holy crap.

[01:59:27] So it's going to be super awesome, guys.

[01:59:29] I mean, let's just say I'm not really looking at dollar signs when I buy this stuff.

[01:59:33] I'm negotiating.

[01:59:34] Yeah.

[01:59:34] But, you know, again, this is stuff that I'm learning.

[01:59:38] Like, I've never dealt with scaffolding.

[01:59:40] I don't know how scaffolding works.

[01:59:41] But, you know, I now know there's easy scaffolding and there's difficult scaffolding.

[01:59:45] The easy scaffolding is more expensive.

[01:59:47] But it's easy.

[01:59:48] So I'm learning how to set it up.

[01:59:50] I'm learning, you know, I have to do all these things before I click buy.

[01:59:53] And I have to see the entire vision come together before I click buy.

[01:59:55] And that's where I'm at now.

[01:59:57] So buying the finals area is what I'm doing, say, this week.

[02:00:03] And buying all the branding material for the entire room.

[02:00:06] We're dressing up the room.

[02:00:07] We're actually going to cat out the room.

[02:00:08] We're going to see what the room looks like before we even get there.

[02:00:11] We've already catted it 2D.

[02:00:13] But we're going to have a 3D cat where we're going to be able to see the room.

[02:00:16] It's what I'm anticipating with our branding agency.

[02:00:19] Again, he doesn't just build brands.

[02:00:20] He builds stadiums.

[02:00:21] So we're taking my vision and his knowledge.

[02:00:24] And we're putting it together for TKO and Vegas.

[02:00:27] And so, yeah, I'm putting together the pieces to the puzzle.

[02:00:31] And hopefully we don't just completely, you know, screw up at TKO.

[02:00:37] Yeah, right?

[02:00:37] So is the finals area going to be different from the pit area?

[02:00:41] Or is there no longer going to be a pit area?

[02:00:44] Yeah, what you said is right.

[02:00:45] It's going to be called the pit.

[02:00:47] So it used to be called the pits because there was multiple places.

[02:00:50] Now all the tables are in one place.

[02:00:53] So you're going to have, for TKO, you're going to have three tables in one area.

[02:00:58] And in the finals, you'll have just the one table.

[02:01:02] And in Vegas, you'll have four tables that are all in one area.

[02:01:05] So the energy is going to be really cool.

[02:01:07] I envision kind of what this is going to feel like and look like.

[02:01:12] And it's something that we've never felt before.

[02:01:14] So it's going to be awesome.

[02:01:15] You're literally going to have people cheering and screaming on all four sides of you in the middle of that match.

[02:01:20] Let's go.

[02:01:21] Yeah.

[02:01:21] Let's go.

[02:01:22] And it's going to be called the pit because it's going to literally look like a giant crater.

[02:01:28] Sweet.

[02:01:29] The way the seats are going to be built around it?

[02:01:32] Yeah, it's going to be on all four sides.

[02:01:34] You're going to have bleachers.

[02:01:34] That's great.

[02:01:36] Nice.

[02:01:37] Yeah.

[02:01:37] That's exciting, dude.

[02:01:38] I can't wait to see it, man.

[02:01:39] I've always envisioned a really good...

[02:01:41] Disclaimer, TKO is going to be like, well, not anything close to Vegas.

[02:01:47] But it's going to be a similar structure, just not a complete structure because we don't have tall enough ceilings at the Clarion.

[02:01:53] So like smaller scale?

[02:01:56] Yeah, exactly.

[02:01:57] It's all around smaller scale.

[02:02:00] And then Vegas is going to be full size.

[02:02:02] And then if we pack the stands at Vegas, I know Worlds is going to be more.

[02:02:06] So we'll grow it.

[02:02:08] We'll make it bigger.

[02:02:09] But what's really cool about what I'm doing is it's actually expandable.

[02:02:12] So I can pretty easily take what we have and expand the sizing on it with just buying a few more components.

[02:02:19] So, again, like when I think this stuff through, this is the kind of things I'm thinking about.

[02:02:24] It's like, what happens if we grow?

[02:02:25] Well, if we grow, I need to seat more people.

[02:02:27] Well, how do I seat more people?

[02:02:28] Will this system work?

[02:02:29] Will I have to get a new system?

[02:02:30] Am I going to spend, you know, $30,000 on this system and then have to turn around a year later and buy another one for 50?

[02:02:37] You know, so that's the kind of things that I have to think about when I'm talking about this.

[02:02:42] So that's what I've done is I've got us to where we can easily seat 605 people with just changing a few components.

[02:02:52] Nice.

[02:02:53] And that's pretty comfortable.

[02:02:55] That's two foot per person.

[02:02:57] The standard sizing, if you guys want to know, which I just learned not too long ago, is 18 inches.

[02:03:00] And I was like, I put it up next to me.

[02:03:02] I'm like, what the hell?

[02:03:03] There ain't no way you're fitting 18 inches.

[02:03:05] I got the room still here.

[02:03:07] I'm like, I'm at 24 foot just me, bro.

[02:03:12] Like, you know, I don't know.

[02:03:14] Yeah, I don't want to start name dropping.

[02:03:17] Yeah, right.

[02:03:18] I'm just saying.

[02:03:19] There's some big ones, right?

[02:03:22] Yeah, no, no, for sure.

[02:03:24] But that's what I said.

[02:03:25] It's like, all right, well, if you look up at a bleacher stand, it says, oh, 644 people.

[02:03:30] I said, yeah, bullshit.

[02:03:31] Yeah.

[02:03:31] Maybe I had kids, man.

[02:03:33] Yeah.

[02:03:33] Right.

[02:03:34] Right.

[02:03:34] Right.

[02:03:34] I'm like, no, that thing's seen 100 people.

[02:03:37] I ain't know 144.

[02:03:38] Well, you said two feet.

[02:03:40] I mean, that's your 24 inches right there.

[02:03:42] So there you go.

[02:03:42] Well, I mean, who wants to be smashed through each other?

[02:03:45] I mean, maybe that'll add to the vibe.

[02:03:46] Maybe if we have, like, mandatory deodorant you have to put on as you come through.

[02:03:52] You know, everybody gets a disposable deodorant stick.

[02:03:54] Maybe I can squeeze this in.

[02:03:55] But no comment.

[02:03:57] We got to pass the sniff test.

[02:03:59] No comment.

[02:04:02] So here's one of the things that I really find compelling about a great match.

[02:04:10] Noise.

[02:04:11] People yelling and screaming and cheering for their favorite players.

[02:04:15] How do you feel about that, Ryan?

[02:04:16] What's your philosophy on that?

[02:04:20] Well, there's a couple things that are required to get that kind of excitement.

[02:04:26] One is, like, a reason.

[02:04:28] Like, why does this person want to win?

[02:04:30] Yeah.

[02:04:30] So, like, if the people are passionate, the players are passionate in the game, the more

[02:04:34] passion that's shown, the more emotions that are shown, the more, you know, aggression,

[02:04:39] whatever you want to call it, the more the crowd gets involved.

[02:04:41] And what makes people get more aggressive?

[02:04:43] Well, it's typically a bigger reason to win.

[02:04:45] So that was the first thing we have to do.

[02:04:46] We have to give them a bigger reason to win.

[02:04:49] And the second thing is that people will get behind is the show.

[02:04:53] It'll be a lot to be driven around the show.

[02:04:56] Right.

[02:04:56] The thing is that the people that are the best in the world at foosball, if the grapevine

[02:05:01] goes through, the people that are the best in the world at foosball in five years could,

[02:05:07] I'm not going to ever guarantee you anything, could have a decent living to be made off

[02:05:12] of foosball.

[02:05:13] And I say could because I can't guarantee it.

[02:05:16] Right.

[02:05:16] But the direction that we're going is going to give a lot of people hope to go, you know

[02:05:21] what?

[02:05:21] This actually pays off.

[02:05:22] I'm really good at this.

[02:05:23] Why not just freaking go ahead and at least my spare time, let's dedicate it to where

[02:05:27] I love it.

[02:05:28] Screw it.

[02:05:28] I could actually turn this into a living one day.

[02:05:30] I could meet connections.

[02:05:31] I could be considered one of the best in the world and have unlimited opportunity.

[02:05:36] So when it comes to the finals, getting people excited, there's going to be a lot more meaning

[02:05:40] behind winning when all this stuff starts coming to fruition.

[02:05:44] When you see this finals area and you're like, holy crap, it's a production now.

[02:05:47] It's not like just a finals of open to all your partner at the local.

[02:05:51] No, this is like you're winning one of the biggest events in the world where all the

[02:05:55] best players in the world are at, by the way.

[02:05:56] Yeah.

[02:05:57] You know what I mean?

[02:05:57] You're, you're, you're truly trying to be the best player in the world.

[02:06:00] It's something that matters, you know, and foosball has always mattered.

[02:06:02] But like I said, giving people a reason to want to fight, whether it's cash or whether

[02:06:07] it's respect or whether it's getting that sponsor.

[02:06:10] Those are all the reasons.

[02:06:12] Yeah.

[02:06:12] Those are all reasons to actually want to win.

[02:06:14] And those are reasons why you want your fan base wants you to win because they want you

[02:06:18] to be that person.

[02:06:19] They like you.

[02:06:20] You're their idol.

[02:06:21] So they want you to win.

[02:06:22] So they cheer for you because they want you to see you, that person on that pedestal.

[02:06:26] They want to see you, the person on that billboard when you're coming to the tournament.

[02:06:30] They want to see you, the person that's getting hijacked or hyped, hijacked, hyped across

[02:06:35] the entire internet and getting worldwide recognition.

[02:06:38] You see what I mean?

[02:06:39] So the whole entire way that people think about foosball is going to change over time based

[02:06:47] on recognition, based on how deep we get this into the world.

[02:06:51] And like I said, dude, we're talking to some really solid people that have the same core

[02:06:58] values that I do and have the same or more of a budget than I do.

[02:07:02] So if stuff falls in line, things could be really great.

[02:07:08] Wow.

[02:07:08] Well, man, as a player, I'm going to be doing, I'm just going to be supporting you, dude.

[02:07:13] Yeah.

[02:07:13] You know, I'm going to be coming out and playing and supporting the tour.

[02:07:17] Sure.

[02:07:18] Look, we've been running for two plus solid hours.

[02:07:21] I got one more question for you.

[02:07:23] And then after that, I mean, you can, you know, whatever.

[02:07:26] You sound like my son.

[02:07:27] One more daddy.

[02:07:28] We do it.

[02:07:28] I mean.

[02:07:29] One more daddy.

[02:07:30] Listen, why?

[02:07:31] Why?

[02:07:33] You're going to be saying this to TKO.

[02:07:34] Why?

[02:07:35] One more daddy.

[02:07:35] Oh.

[02:07:36] Why?

[02:07:37] Why?

[02:07:38] Anyway.

[02:07:40] So, dude, I know.

[02:07:41] And again, you're, dude, you got so many cool things going on.

[02:07:44] I just, so match of the weekend, that's going to be a thing, right?

[02:07:51] So how is that getting determined?

[02:07:53] And is that going to be like a pit only match or is that going to be a match throughout the room?

[02:07:57] How does that get determined?

[02:07:59] Yeah.

[02:08:00] Let's, let's, you know, here's the thing.

[02:08:01] It's not going to be perfect.

[02:08:03] Yeah.

[02:08:04] Yeah.

[02:08:04] Of course.

[02:08:04] No, man.

[02:08:05] Look, you're trying a bunch of stuff, dude, but it's awesome.

[02:08:08] It's awesome.

[02:08:09] Right.

[02:08:09] Right.

[02:08:09] Right.

[02:08:10] So match of the weekend can absolutely be anywhere.

[02:08:13] Okay.

[02:08:14] And no, it does not have to be a pit match, but let's be honest.

[02:08:18] If it's a pit match, it could be the match of the weekend.

[02:08:22] That's where all the eyes are going to be.

[02:08:23] If it's the finals of open singles or open doubles, it's probably pretty likely.

[02:08:27] But it does not mean that the match of the weekend is the one that people really talk about.

[02:08:32] Like that was the freaking match of the weekend.

[02:08:34] It is heavily geared towards top players because it's the one that's most talked about.

[02:08:38] But I've seen situations at tournaments where when you look around the room, all of a sudden

[02:08:44] this, this match is gathering.

[02:08:46] People are gathering around it.

[02:08:48] And there may be, you know, whatever the situation may be, there's a new person.

[02:08:51] That's maybe a bad beat.

[02:08:52] It may be, you know, people getting behind this person.

[02:08:56] It could be the crowd cheering for them.

[02:08:58] It could be how close the match was.

[02:09:00] Like that thing went 13-12, you know.

[02:09:04] And it's not going to be perfect.

[02:09:05] You know, it's another thing that's going to be debatable.

[02:09:07] But that's what it's geared around.

[02:09:09] It's not geared around people acting like jackasses to try to get match of the weekend.

[02:09:13] Like you're not going to, if the match isn't close, you're not going to win match of the weekend.

[02:09:17] It has to be a close match.

[02:09:19] Right, right.

[02:09:20] If you're talking shit and you're beating them three straight or two straight, you're not going to match of the weekend.

[02:09:24] I don't care how much shit you talk.

[02:09:25] I don't care.

[02:09:26] If you're fighting, we're not going to condone that.

[02:09:30] That's not going to be match of the weekend.

[02:09:31] If you're talking, I'm going to beat your ass.

[02:09:32] No, that's not match of the weekend.

[02:09:33] What is match of the weekend?

[02:09:34] It's the best match of the weekend.

[02:09:36] It's the one that the crowd got behind the most.

[02:09:38] It was the one that was the closest.

[02:09:39] It was the one that made your heart go, you know what I mean?

[02:09:43] Like when people are playing, like, oh shit.

[02:09:44] Like you see it sometimes.

[02:09:46] You look around the crowd and people are like, oh God, oh.

[02:09:49] Now, again, absolutely.

[02:09:51] If you're in the pits or the pit and you have the crowd going for you, there's a good likelihood you might win.

[02:09:57] You know, you have more of an advantage.

[02:09:59] So get yourself in position to win that match of the weekend.

[02:10:02] Correct.

[02:10:03] That's all it really is.

[02:10:04] You know, and the match of the weekend, in my opinion, if we can execute it properly, will be heavily displayed after the tournament.

[02:10:11] It's like, hey, we want to show the match of the weekend.

[02:10:13] Wyatt got the match of the weekend.

[02:10:14] Look, this is why, you know.

[02:10:15] We may not get there until the second or third game, but we're recording it.

[02:10:20] We're showing, like, hey, this is what wins match of the weekend.

[02:10:23] And, you know, it may be the finals of open singles.

[02:10:25] It may be the finals of open doubles.

[02:10:27] It may be the finals of women's doubles.

[02:10:28] It may be the finals of maybe a 15th, you know, 13th through 16th match of the losers bracket of amateur doubles.

[02:10:35] But it was just wild.

[02:10:37] I don't really have an answer for you.

[02:10:39] All I can say is it's really what's the one that most people are talking about at the end of the week.

[02:10:42] Yeah.

[02:10:43] Well, I just – yeah, I just want to – you know, I wanted you to kind of elaborate on the match of the weekend thing because that's something that's never been done.

[02:10:51] So I think – yeah.

[02:10:52] I mean, dude, like I said, man, you're doing a lot of cool stuff, man.

[02:10:56] So one more question.

[02:10:58] Really, I haven't even really touched the tip of the sword, guys.

[02:11:01] I mean I'm trying to – I'm not trying to blow my head up, but I'm trying to implement, like, a couple small things at a time because if I try to do everything I want, it would fail.

[02:11:10] All of them would fail miserably.

[02:11:11] Sure.

[02:11:19] Really execute what we're doing.

[02:11:21] I mean, like, the amount of mental power behind the media team, like, before we go there, which we're still assigning – by the way, if anybody's listening to this, if you're a photographer, videographer, we need you.

[02:11:31] We'll buy the equipment, but we need you.

[02:11:32] Like, we need as many people as possible because not everybody can be behind a camera all day long when they're playing events, and we will compensate accordingly.

[02:11:40] If you take good video, take good pictures, we'll give free entry fees and packages where we can depending on how much work you do.

[02:11:46] So throw that out there.

[02:11:47] I'm going to also do a PSA on Facebook on that.

[02:11:51] But essentially, you know, before the event, we're going to have a strategy.

[02:11:55] Here's the people we want to follow.

[02:11:56] So I'm contacting all the top players and seeing what events they're playing with, see who they're playing with.

[02:12:00] We're building a story here, right?

[02:12:02] So – and we're doing this every single year leading up the world.

[02:12:06] And we're going to have a set – here's our goals.

[02:12:08] Here's the videos we want to create in this tournament.

[02:12:11] Here's the things we want to show over the next several months on social media.

[02:12:15] Here's the images that we need to get.

[02:12:17] And it's going to be up to the media team to go find them.

[02:12:21] So, you know, whatever it is, maybe we want kids having a good time.

[02:12:25] Go find the kids having a good time.

[02:12:27] Junior singles and doubles have started at this time.

[02:12:29] Be heavily geared around the junior events.

[02:12:31] We want to see maybe people playing senior events.

[02:12:33] We want to get a good spectrum here.

[02:12:34] Okay, go there during that time.

[02:12:36] We want to see team people.

[02:12:37] We want to see people playing together.

[02:12:39] We want to see teamwork.

[02:12:40] Find a good team that looks good, that's presentable, that has good team shirts.

[02:12:43] When a match gets intense, go get them.

[02:12:45] Get the team view.

[02:12:46] It's a team view.

[02:12:47] That's their goal.

[02:12:48] It's like my only goal is to stare at these two people to get them shaking hands or whatever.

[02:12:51] You know what I mean?

[02:12:51] Like there's going to be an objective here to really show the multifaceted side of foosball.

[02:12:57] I mean, there's a lot going on here.

[02:12:59] So the media team, like I said, there's just a lot we're trying to take on at one time.

[02:13:03] And I've barely even released anything.

[02:13:04] And it's because I already feel a bit overwhelmed, but we'll make it happen.

[02:13:09] We'll figure it out.

[02:13:10] Overwhelmed in the sense of trying to deploy too many things at one time.

[02:13:13] Right.

[02:13:13] Yeah.

[02:13:14] It's going to be, like you mentioned in our conversation earlier this year about phases.

[02:13:19] So phase one, phase two, phase three, phase four.

[02:13:22] And I think it's the most logical way of going about this, man.

[02:13:25] I think you've got the savvy, the understanding.

[02:13:29] That's why I hate saying things, Tom.

[02:13:32] Yeah.

[02:13:33] If the grapevine happens, we're jumping straight to phase three.

[02:13:38] Wow.

[02:13:38] Immediately.

[02:13:38] Immediately.

[02:13:39] We're going from phase one to phase three.

[02:13:41] And I'm excited about it.

[02:13:45] But, you know, we've just got to make things happen for foosball.

[02:13:50] And I'm definitely not going to stop opportunities.

[02:13:53] I'm just, you know.

[02:13:54] Okay.

[02:13:54] Things are happening out of sequence for the better foosball.

[02:13:57] Yeah.

[02:13:58] Dude.

[02:14:00] So one more question.

[02:14:03] I'm just kidding.

[02:14:05] Just one more.

[02:14:05] I'm just kidding.

[02:14:06] I'm just kidding.

[02:14:07] No, you weren't.

[02:14:07] You actually have one.

[02:14:09] No, I don't.

[02:14:10] I brought.

[02:14:12] Nah, dude.

[02:14:13] Look, like I said, hey, man, listen.

[02:14:15] I know your time is valuable.

[02:14:16] Obviously, your wife and your children.

[02:14:17] No, it's fine.

[02:14:18] I'm having a good time.

[02:14:18] I'm probably going to, once we get off here, I probably honestly would just take off the

[02:14:23] rest of the night because I would be up early tomorrow to have a meeting or two.

[02:14:26] Yeah, buddy.

[02:14:27] I don't care.

[02:14:28] I don't care.

[02:14:29] No, I got to get up at five.

[02:14:32] Ouch.

[02:14:32] Yeah.

[02:14:33] Yeah.

[02:14:34] Working, man, dude.

[02:14:35] Yeah.

[02:14:35] I got to do.

[02:14:36] Listen, I live my life from foosball tournament to foosball tournament.

[02:14:40] So it's just all the days between tournaments are just a blur until I get there.

[02:14:45] So.

[02:14:46] I feel the same way.

[02:14:47] So.

[02:14:48] Okay.

[02:14:48] Ryan, just a quick personal question.

[02:14:50] Happy New Year, first of all.

[02:14:52] But second of all, what are you doing for the New Year's?

[02:14:54] Anything special?

[02:14:56] Working.

[02:14:58] I'm sorry.

[02:14:59] I missed that.

[02:15:01] Yeah.

[02:15:02] Working.

[02:15:03] Working.

[02:15:03] Oh.

[02:15:06] Yeah.

[02:15:07] Yeah.

[02:15:08] Yeah.

[02:15:08] No, I don't have much time.

[02:15:10] You know, today I went with the family to the zoo for five hours.

[02:15:15] Um, and, uh, yeah, came back and started working.

[02:15:19] I mean, I got to give the family some time, you know, obviously I love to, um, and I'm

[02:15:24] perfectly happy with, you know, my work to the family ratio, especially because I work

[02:15:27] from home.

[02:15:28] I mean, it's true, you know, dream job really.

[02:15:30] Uh, but yeah, no, I'm, I'm working like this year.

[02:15:32] I, you know, Shannon was like, come on down, dude, we'll go to the fucking bloke seat

[02:15:36] and go to the casino.

[02:15:37] And I'm like, God, I've been wanting to do that with Shannon for a while.

[02:15:40] Uh, but, uh, I can't, dude.

[02:15:43] I just can't.

[02:15:43] I'm like, I gotta get you done.

[02:15:45] But here's the thing.

[02:15:47] Like most people go, I gotta work.

[02:15:48] I'm like, I gotta work.

[02:15:50] Yeah.

[02:15:51] Yeah.

[02:15:51] Yeah.

[02:15:51] Yeah.

[02:15:51] I love it.

[02:15:52] This is literally, you know, I always loved hosting like parties, like, you know, at my

[02:15:58] house, all the way from being like a teenager, I'd always host a party.

[02:16:01] And then I had my own house at 18.

[02:16:03] My house was the party house.

[02:16:04] You know what I mean?

[02:16:05] From 18 to 19, literally I was known for the party house.

[02:16:08] And, uh, and, you know, even throughout all the time, every chance I had, I could, I would

[02:16:13] host like a party for the friends.

[02:16:14] And I love it.

[02:16:15] I just love entertaining, right?

[02:16:16] I'm an entertainer.

[02:16:17] And so I'm about to create the biggest party in my life.

[02:16:21] That's what I'm doing.

[02:16:24] I've created the biggest party in my life.

[02:16:26] And my number one goal is everyone has a good time.

[02:16:29] Okay.

[02:16:30] Now we, uh, we had this discussion before, but I asked you, I forgot to ask you earlier,

[02:16:34] uh, when the playing is over, let's say on, I don't know, Friday or Saturday night.

[02:16:40] Um, what's up?

[02:16:42] We got anything, uh, anything good in the works for maybe a, maybe a separate room where we

[02:16:46] can all go and sing at the top of our lungs.

[02:16:48] I mean, what's, what's, uh, what's up?

[02:16:51] Yeah.

[02:16:51] Well, TKO, we're going to make sure that we have tables and recreational games and stuff,

[02:16:57] uh, out in the open where all night long you can play until your heart drops.

[02:17:02] All night long.

[02:17:02] Uh, it was like that at worlds.

[02:17:04] If you remember, um, there was a lot of tables that were open all night long and people played.

[02:17:08] I mean, even last night we were out there until super late.

[02:17:10] Right.

[02:17:11] Uh, that, that I'm going to try to do every single tournament.

[02:17:14] I'm always going to try to have a place for people to be able to hang out.

[02:17:16] Uh, Clarion, luckily that's one beautiful thing about that hotel is that they, they let

[02:17:20] us do whatever the hell we want.

[02:17:21] Right.

[02:17:22] In Vegas, there's some open areas where the darters had dart machines that I don't believe

[02:17:27] will be any issue.

[02:17:28] We can have tables there, uh, going pretty late as well.

[02:17:31] Uh, potentially.

[02:17:33] And, and we'll see there, but my goal is to have an area, uh, after the tournament that

[02:17:37] you can play in all night if you want, you know, again, everybody, this is what's really

[02:17:40] cool about foosball.

[02:17:42] Uh, it's not really cool.

[02:17:43] It's what's really difficult, but also cool is you make a tournament.

[02:17:46] What you want when you go there, if you want to stay up all night drinking, you can't,

[02:17:49] if you want to wake up at 8am, go get breakfast, you know, have a nice meal and get up and warm

[02:17:55] up at nine o'clock to play foosball competitively.

[02:17:58] Do that.

[02:17:58] You want to go to bed at 10?

[02:17:59] No problem.

[02:18:00] Uh, we're just trying to enhance that.

[02:18:02] And, and, you know, it's, it's really the difficult part about running the tournament is you're,

[02:18:06] you have so many different people, different ages, different genders, different everything

[02:18:10] type personality types that are all trying to come there and have a good time.

[02:18:13] So how do you cater to everyone?

[02:18:16] Yeah.

[02:18:16] A lot of people say you can't, but you really can't.

[02:18:18] You can, you can leave things open to where people can make their own event.

[02:18:23] You know what I mean?

[02:18:24] And it's just applying the possibilities for a person to, to navigate what they want to

[02:18:29] do.

[02:18:29] I look at it.

[02:18:30] Me and my wife went on cruises the last two years and I look at it like a cruise.

[02:18:33] It's like, you go on a cruise, you can literally do whatever you want.

[02:18:36] Do you want to go party all night?

[02:18:37] Yeah, you can.

[02:18:37] Do you want to go to the art museum?

[02:18:39] Yeah, you can.

[02:18:39] Do you want to go wine tasting?

[02:18:40] Sure.

[02:18:41] Do you want to go to a comedy club?

[02:18:43] Sure.

[02:18:43] You know, you, you, you figure out what is your event, what does your event look like

[02:18:47] and you make it happen.

[02:18:48] And so our goal over time is going to be, let's create a magnitude of different ideas

[02:18:54] and ways that people can go to have a good time.

[02:18:57] Whether that's in the event space, whether that's out of the event space.

[02:19:00] You know, one of our events we're going to have eventually, I don't know when, but I've

[02:19:04] been hitting towards it, is Nashville.

[02:19:06] I really want to event Nashville.

[02:19:07] I think it's the biggest untapped potential market in America.

[02:19:10] It's one of the coolest party places.

[02:19:13] It's one of the coolest family places.

[02:19:14] If you're in music, if you're into good food, if you're, you know, you're into scenery.

[02:19:22] I mean, dude, it has everything in it and it's such a growing city and there's never been

[02:19:27] a major or even a state tournament there.

[02:19:29] I'm sorry.

[02:19:30] The Nashville guys, Mike Kelly, I believe.

[02:19:31] Yeah.

[02:19:32] He's actually doing very well there growing the scene.

[02:19:34] And I believe they do have like a small music city.

[02:19:38] That's right.

[02:19:39] Yeah.

[02:19:40] Yeah.

[02:19:41] Yeah.

[02:19:41] Yeah.

[02:19:42] And, and, but I'm just like, dude, we need to, we need to pop one of these four majors

[02:19:45] gotta be in Nashville.

[02:19:46] Like you look at geographically speaking, it's just amazing.

[02:19:49] So, you know, I don't know exactly.

[02:19:51] Nothing's locked in there.

[02:19:52] I can tell you that today.

[02:19:53] Nothing's locked in.

[02:19:54] But, you know, my goal would be to do that.

[02:19:56] You know why?

[02:19:57] Because, you know, Thursday night I can stop all events and we go to the second street and

[02:20:00] we all throw a party.

[02:20:01] We have a bar that's dedicated to the world foosball tour decaled out with tables in there.

[02:20:04] We're throwing a party right on second street.

[02:20:06] You know, these are the ideas.

[02:20:08] Yeah.

[02:20:09] These are the ideas that I want to make happen.

[02:20:11] You know, can we, I don't know.

[02:20:12] I know we can't do it for TKO.

[02:20:14] I know we can't do it for Vegas.

[02:20:15] Cause I've already looked into that option to have a player's party.

[02:20:18] You think, well, why not in Vegas?

[02:20:20] Well, you have to go so far away.

[02:20:21] It's like, it's just not ideally, you know, possible.

[02:20:24] And there's not a lot of great venues unless you're spending a ton of money.

[02:20:27] So again, there's a million ideas.

[02:20:30] I love hearing people's ideas too.

[02:20:31] I mean, just to be blunt, there's probably like maybe one out of 10 that are feasible

[02:20:37] because most people don't understand all of the inputs.

[02:20:42] You know, they don't have the inputs to be able to make a final decision.

[02:20:46] People always ask the same things.

[02:20:47] Why don't you do X?

[02:20:47] It's like, because of Y, Z, A, A, A, B, A, C, A, D.

[02:20:52] You know what I mean?

[02:20:53] It's like, it's like, because of this many reasons and it does get a little tiring, you

[02:20:58] know, but at the same time, I understand everybody just wants the same goal.

[02:21:02] They want foosball to get better.

[02:21:03] So I try to do my best to explain and, you know, as thoroughly as possible.

[02:21:08] But, you know, we're all in the same thing.

[02:21:10] We're all in here together trying to make foosball grow.

[02:21:13] So, and now the only thing, here's the only thing that people have to do.

[02:21:17] Okay.

[02:21:17] You don't have to do anything except for support the tour as much as you can.

[02:21:23] Not, you don't have to come out at all.

[02:21:24] Support it.

[02:21:25] You can give good vibes.

[02:21:27] Give good energy.

[02:21:29] Okay.

[02:21:29] Good energy is toxic as much as bad energy.

[02:21:31] Okay.

[02:21:32] When you give good energy, you feel good.

[02:21:33] You like it.

[02:21:34] You want, you, you spread the word, spread good energy.

[02:21:36] And the last thing is, is honestly share it.

[02:21:39] I mean, like people don't understand like for small business, how big a share can be.

[02:21:43] Like if you share the world foosball tour, which is our company, yes, sure.

[02:21:46] I own it.

[02:21:46] But if foosball survives, lives, dies, or thrives, it's going to be under this brand.

[02:21:51] No other brand's going to do it.

[02:21:53] So as something as simple as sharing the brand, doing a post every now and then, whatever

[02:21:59] good positive energy towards it, that grows foosball.

[02:22:02] You don't have to be promoting it and pulling in players.

[02:22:06] I mean, literally these little acts count a lot when you do it times 2,000 people.

[02:22:10] Just think about it.

[02:22:11] Every single person at one point saw something they resonated with with the world foosball

[02:22:15] tour and shared it and said, this is sick.

[02:22:17] You know, support if you can.

[02:22:18] You know, share if you can.

[02:22:19] Like, I mean, you know, a lot of people don't go through the day doing it because, you know,

[02:22:24] X, Y, Z, but those are the little things that people can do to actually help grow

[02:22:28] the sport.

[02:22:29] So, you know, and when the only way the sport grows is if more people come.

[02:22:35] So the only reason why people come is if they have a good time, you know.

[02:22:40] So, like, there's a whole bunch of things that have to work together here for the sport

[02:22:44] to grow, and we're trying to solve that puzzle, you know.

[02:22:47] So just support when you can, good vibes, and share content.

[02:22:53] Share the page.

[02:22:54] Get the word out.

[02:22:55] Spread when you can.

[02:22:57] I mean, be a part of something that's going to grow.

[02:22:59] There you go.

[02:23:00] That's it.

[02:23:00] And tonight, I can say.

[02:23:01] And that doesn't cost you.

[02:23:02] Well, besides going to the tournament, it doesn't cost you nothing.

[02:23:04] Yeah.

[02:23:05] Yeah.

[02:23:06] Yeah.

[02:23:06] You know.

[02:23:06] And by the way, tonight, I think we broke a record for viewers on Twitch TV for Foos Talk

[02:23:12] Live.

[02:23:13] And so everybody who's watching on Twitch TV tonight, thank you, first of all, for being

[02:23:17] on the Twitch.

[02:23:18] But also, you know, spread the word.

[02:23:22] You know, tell everybody you know that this is happening.

[02:23:27] Share it.

[02:23:28] Four weeks.

[02:23:29] Four weeks.

[02:23:30] Tour kickoff.

[02:23:31] Can't wait.

[02:23:31] Four weeks.

[02:23:32] Yep.

[02:23:32] You're scaring me, Randy.

[02:23:33] Slow down, buddy.

[02:23:35] Oh, dude.

[02:23:35] Hey, listen, bro.

[02:23:37] I'm older than you.

[02:23:38] The older I get, the faster it goes by.

[02:23:40] So I'm going to go to bed tonight.

[02:23:44] And then I'm going to wake up the end of January.

[02:23:46] I'm going to get in my car and drive to Lexington.

[02:23:49] Done.

[02:23:50] Let's go.

[02:23:51] Done.

[02:23:51] He gets to drive.

[02:23:53] He gets to drive.

[02:23:53] Yeah, that's another.

[02:23:54] Yeah, I like it.

[02:23:55] It's nice.

[02:23:56] Yeah.

[02:23:57] Well.

[02:23:57] Oh, yeah.

[02:23:58] Six hours.

[02:23:59] Six hours.

[02:23:59] I'm going to listen to it.

[02:24:01] There's no guarantee on this, but this may be the last time we're at the Clarion.

[02:24:05] Oh, really?

[02:24:07] It may be.

[02:24:08] And Clarion's been amazing to us.

[02:24:09] We've been there for a long time.

[02:24:10] I grew up in that place.

[02:24:11] I still remember the first time I jumped and touched the ceiling tile in the hallway.

[02:24:15] I remember being so pumped.

[02:24:17] I was like, I did it.

[02:24:18] Oh, my God.

[02:24:19] Yeah, that's how long I've been at that hotel.

[02:24:20] How old were you?

[02:24:21] 14?

[02:24:22] I don't remember.

[02:24:22] 15?

[02:24:23] No, I was 24 or 14.

[02:24:25] 28?

[02:24:26] Yeah.

[02:24:27] Uh-huh.

[02:24:28] Yeah.

[02:24:30] Yeah.

[02:24:30] Yeah.

[02:24:31] No, I was probably 11.

[02:24:32] I was probably 11 or even younger.

[02:24:34] Probably younger.

[02:24:35] It was the holiday end back in the day.

[02:24:38] We have wrecked that place.

[02:24:39] We lit that place on fire.

[02:24:41] We have wrecked that place.

[02:24:42] That's right.

[02:24:43] That's right.

[02:24:44] The fire trucks came last year.

[02:24:45] Yeah.

[02:24:46] That's awesome.

[02:24:47] Yeah.

[02:24:48] But it may be the last time.

[02:24:51] In just the sense that, not for any reason besides, I think that it maybe is a little

[02:24:56] bit played out.

[02:24:56] I think that adding some movement to the tour may entice people to want to come.

[02:25:02] And, you know, it's been, we've had a couple events there, deservingly so.

[02:25:06] Like, I understand now.

[02:25:07] Like, when I'm doing the things I'm doing, I respect my mom's business acumen and understanding

[02:25:16] of negotiation powers and all of that.

[02:25:18] I understand why she did what she did.

[02:25:20] Like, I truly did.

[02:25:21] And there's been so many ideas that I had that I came into this and they just get debunked

[02:25:26] the second I got into it.

[02:25:27] It's like, oh, I can do this.

[02:25:28] No, no, you can't.

[02:25:29] Oh, no, I'm going to do this.

[02:25:30] No, no, mom's right.

[02:25:32] I mean, that's happened maybe like six times already where I had great ideas.

[02:25:36] And as soon as I got into the weeds, I was like, no, mom had it figured out.

[02:25:40] Like, the negotiation with the hotel, like Clarion, she had it figured out.

[02:25:45] Like, they were like her best friend compared to, you know, the sharky deals I'm getting

[02:25:49] across the U.S.

[02:25:50] Right.

[02:25:51] And it makes sense business-wise.

[02:25:52] Without those kind of negotiations that she did, the tour wouldn't have survived.

[02:25:56] I mean, that's just the bottom line.

[02:25:57] Without her having been making some money only the last, you know, five, six, six years or

[02:26:02] seven years, she'd chew to the chew to die.

[02:26:05] Think about it.

[02:26:05] You know, seven years ago, the tour was not making any money.

[02:26:08] You know what I mean?

[02:26:08] And nobody wanted to be a promoter, you know?

[02:26:12] So, you know, her business acumen has absolutely been great.

[02:26:17] And the reason why Foosball is still here today, in my opinion, one of the reasons why

[02:26:20] it's still as prominent.

[02:26:21] It probably would have still been alive, but it wouldn't have been as prominent as it

[02:26:25] is today.

[02:26:25] Yeah.

[02:26:26] It would have been way less.

[02:26:28] And I would have had a way further starting line than where I have right now.

[02:26:32] So, I acknowledge that.

[02:26:34] I ain't stupid.

[02:26:35] I'm not naive.

[02:26:36] You know what I mean?

[02:26:37] Yeah.

[02:26:37] Yeah.

[02:26:38] Well, I think that one of the things we definitely am able to count on is while we're at the TKO

[02:26:43] in four weeks, that the three of us at least get together again for a couple of chats, or

[02:26:50] at least one, to see how things are going at the moment.

[02:26:54] Yeah.

[02:26:55] We'll see.

[02:26:55] If I'm crying or sweating or anything like that, then maybe just leave me alone.

[02:27:00] I don't know.

[02:27:01] This may be a dumpster fire.

[02:27:03] Who knows?

[02:27:04] I don't think so, dude.

[02:27:06] I don't think so.

[02:27:07] No.

[02:27:07] I don't think so.

[02:27:08] I literally, you know, of course, I acquired this business.

[02:27:12] It wasn't like it was given to me.

[02:27:14] But this is the first time I didn't build something from the ground up.

[02:27:18] I mean, I've only built companies from the ground up.

[02:27:21] I've never got the opportunity and the luxury of taking over a successful business and just

[02:27:29] trying to make it better.

[02:27:31] I can only imagine, like, if I would have been in my mom's shoes, like, how many times

[02:27:36] I would have wanted to quit?

[02:27:37] Like, you know what I mean?

[02:27:38] And this, my success is accelerated by her success in the industry and what she's learned,

[02:27:48] what she's created.

[02:27:48] And so the only reason why I may be able to come in and do as much as I can do is because

[02:27:53] of what she did.

[02:27:54] You know, that's genuine.

[02:27:55] That's not like me blowing my mom up.

[02:27:57] That's fact.

[02:27:58] It's true.

[02:27:58] I don't care who you are.

[02:28:00] So, you know, had she maybe done other things and foosball would have been died off, then

[02:28:04] it would have been a lot harder, a lot further back starting her.

[02:28:07] But, you know, I think in five years, foosball could be pretty, pretty awesome.

[02:28:13] And, you know, I'm setting the bar high here.

[02:28:14] But, you know, if I didn't, then I guess I'd probably get a little lazy.

[02:28:18] Of course.

[02:28:19] So I'm setting the bar high so that I got to try to meet the expectations.

[02:28:24] But not too high.

[02:28:25] Not things that I can't foresee, you know?

[02:28:27] Yeah.

[02:28:28] Cool.

[02:28:29] Well, I got to say, man, this is an absolute pleasure.

[02:28:32] And you're always, always entertaining.

[02:28:35] There's never a question about that.

[02:28:37] Like you say, you are an entertainer and a great guest.

[02:28:41] But, man, this is an episode for the ages.

[02:28:45] Let's put it that way.

[02:28:46] Thank you so much.

[02:28:47] Yeah.

[02:28:48] It literally took ages, Tom.

[02:28:51] I'm aging in front of everybody.

[02:28:53] I'm aging.

[02:28:54] No.

[02:28:55] Tom, you have a moniker on your head now.

[02:28:59] I don't even know if that's the right word.

[02:29:01] But you're now, for TKO, you're going to be the voice.

[02:29:05] And I want you to get really nervous about it.

[02:29:07] All right.

[02:29:07] All right.

[02:29:08] You perform extra well.

[02:29:10] I want to see.

[02:29:11] Good.

[02:29:11] Good.

[02:29:12] And, yeah.

[02:29:13] We'll see where it goes, man.

[02:29:15] Oh, I can't wait.

[02:29:16] I cannot wait.

[02:29:17] It's one of those things.

[02:29:18] I'll be waking up at, you know, five in the morning.

[02:29:21] Like when Randy's going to work, I'll be laying there going, dang, I got to do this.

[02:29:25] How am I going to do this?

[02:29:26] I thought you were going to be getting up at five and cracking raw eggs into a cup and

[02:29:30] then running.

[02:29:31] I'll just lay back up some stairs.

[02:29:33] I'll roll over and go back to sleep.

[02:29:34] But, you know, I'll still be burning at five in the morning.

[02:29:38] Yeah.

[02:29:40] Yeah.

[02:29:40] Yeah.

[02:29:41] No, it's going to be beautiful, man.

[02:29:42] I hope that your energy you bring to it is the same that I bring to it.

[02:29:47] You know, when you really care about something, you know, a lot of the nervousness eventually

[02:29:52] goes away.

[02:29:52] It's like, you know, this is just a, all we're doing is just something the best for

[02:29:56] foosball.

[02:29:57] So a lot of the, you know, you can, I found some calm in the storms many, many times,

[02:30:03] just knowing that what I'm doing is right and, and impactful and it calms the storms because

[02:30:09] of that reason.

[02:30:10] You know, it's like, okay, I can get through this.

[02:30:12] This is good.

[02:30:13] If it wasn't good, I'd be really nervous.

[02:30:15] Oh.

[02:30:16] You know, if I didn't believe in it, it'd be really nervous.

[02:30:18] So I think that there'll be a lot of that, you know, so.

[02:30:21] Well, and maybe, you know, maybe your voice goes out, Tom, from talking too much and maybe

[02:30:26] I have to do in there and I'll probably turn red as I scream, you know?

[02:30:30] Okay.

[02:30:30] All right.

[02:30:31] But I'm not worried.

[02:30:32] I'm not worried about the way I, you know, I'm not worried about what people think about

[02:30:35] me or my image.

[02:30:35] So I could, I can completely look like a baboon and not really give a crap.

[02:30:40] You know what I mean?

[02:30:41] Right.

[02:30:41] I mean, you just saw that at that world series.

[02:30:43] If you watch that match, I didn't care what people thought about me.

[02:30:45] You know, I'm acting like I'm just an animal.

[02:30:47] Just, you know, I don't care.

[02:30:49] What?

[02:30:49] Your thing, right?

[02:30:50] You gotta have fun.

[02:30:50] Well, you don't like me.

[02:30:52] Sorry.

[02:30:53] You gotta bring the joy.

[02:30:55] If you're not experiencing joy in what you do, then why would you do it?

[02:30:59] Right.

[02:31:00] So share the joy.

[02:31:01] That's all we ask and be yourself.

[02:31:04] So, hey guys, Randy, man, what are you doing for New Year's?

[02:31:09] Oh, I saw, I'm sorry.

[02:31:10] I shouldn't ask you that.

[02:31:11] You're going to be sleeping.

[02:31:11] Sorry.

[02:31:12] A hundred percent.

[02:31:15] I'll be in bed asleep probably by like 830.

[02:31:18] So I'll, yeah, I'm going to give the dog a bath.

[02:31:22] Hit the sack.

[02:31:23] Because my neighbors, my dude, I got redneck neighbors that shoot off fireworks and messes

[02:31:27] with my dog.

[02:31:28] Oh.

[02:31:28] So anyway, I've been watching the old man.

[02:31:32] You ever watch that show?

[02:31:33] The old man.

[02:31:35] Yeah.

[02:31:36] Who's the dude that played the Big Lebowski?

[02:31:39] The dude.

[02:31:40] Oh, you're talking about Jeff Bridges?

[02:31:41] Jeff Bridges.

[02:31:41] Jeff Bridges.

[02:31:42] Yeah.

[02:31:42] Yeah.

[02:31:43] No, I've seen that.

[02:31:43] He's got a show.

[02:31:44] It's on Hulu called The Old Man.

[02:31:45] I have seen that.

[02:31:46] Yeah.

[02:31:46] Every time I see it, yeah, it reminds me of you.

[02:31:48] I'm like, yeah, it's Tom Robinson.

[02:31:50] Anyway, yeah, I got into it.

[02:31:53] It's pretty good.

[02:31:54] So I'm probably going to be banging out some episodes and yeah.

[02:31:58] Happy New Year.

[02:31:59] That's it, man.

[02:31:59] Happy New Year.

[02:32:00] Simple.

[02:32:01] Simple.

[02:32:01] Shoot some foosballs.

[02:32:02] See you at a table.

[02:32:03] Shoot some foosballs.

[02:32:04] Playing some foosballs.

[02:32:04] Get to bed.

[02:32:05] That's it, man.

[02:32:06] Get ready for the kickoff.

[02:32:08] That's it, dude.

[02:32:08] Well, we're good.

[02:32:10] That's it, bro.

[02:32:11] I told you.

[02:32:11] Look, I'm like Vin Diesel.

[02:32:13] I'm like Vin Diesel in Fast and the Furious.

[02:32:15] He said I live my life a quarter mile at a time, right?

[02:32:17] So it's the same thing except with foosball.

[02:32:20] So that's it.

[02:32:22] No, dude.

[02:32:23] Ryan, bro, if you need anything, just let me do it.

[02:32:26] Again, any way I can help, man, I want to help.

[02:32:29] White Castle the last night, okay?

[02:32:31] Yeah, bro, I got you.

[02:32:32] I need a 60-pack.

[02:32:34] I need a 60-pack the last night to give out to all the last standing people

[02:32:38] that are at the tables drunk as crap, right?

[02:32:40] That's the only thing I'm going to do.

[02:32:41] That's awesome.

[02:32:42] Again, I drive in.

[02:32:43] I'll be there too, probably.

[02:32:44] I'm saying, I drive in.

[02:32:46] If you need, bro, if you need something, just let me know.

[02:32:48] I got you.

[02:32:49] I got you.

[02:32:49] Yeah.

[02:32:49] 50-pack White Castle, baby.

[02:32:51] Just don't put me on recall.

[02:32:53] I got you.

[02:32:53] It's a handy-dandy square hamburger.

[02:32:56] White Castle.

[02:32:57] Yeah, I got you.

[02:32:57] A 60-pack of White Castle.

[02:32:58] I got you.

[02:32:59] Make it happen.

[02:33:00] So, yeah, dude.

[02:33:02] Very cool.

[02:33:03] Well, guys, happy New Year to both of you.

[02:33:07] You too, son.

[02:33:07] And when you tuned in tonight for Twitch TV, you really made our night.

[02:33:13] Thank you so much for doing that.

[02:33:14] And Happy New Year to you.

[02:33:15] And thank you again for tuning in.

[02:33:17] And this, of course, will be downloadable very soon on foosballradio.com.

[02:33:23] But, hey, it's 2024, man.

[02:33:26] Looking back, it was great.

[02:33:28] But 2025 is going to be even better.

[02:33:31] I just have a feeling about that.

[02:33:33] Just got a feeling.

[02:33:34] No, absolutely, guys.

[02:33:35] It's going to be the year of opportunity.

[02:33:37] I mean, overall, that's the way I see it.

[02:33:40] And I see a lot of positive things coming, not for just foosball, but just period in the world.

[02:33:45] And I'm hoping we all see it.

[02:33:48] So I'm hoping everybody has a good New Year.

[02:33:51] And 2024 was a bit of a weird, rocky one for me.

[02:33:54] But it's exciting now.

[02:33:57] So we're ending on a good note.

[02:33:59] And, yeah, no, I hope you guys both have a good time.

[02:34:02] New Year's Eve and, yep, start January 1st, 2025 with a new mindset and try to carry it through the year as long as you can.

[02:34:09] That's always the struggle, right?

[02:34:10] Nice.

[02:34:11] Yes, sir.

[02:34:12] Yes, sir.

[02:34:14] Spoken like a true visionary.

[02:34:16] But we're going to talk to you in 2025.

[02:34:20] So, again, you know, Happy New Year to everybody listening tonight and, of course, on to this podcast as well.

[02:34:25] Now I've got to tell you, the next feature, which you're about to hear, the Foos Talk Live tournament beat is probably the longest we've had in a long time.

[02:34:34] There's a lot of tournaments coming up.

[02:34:36] So stay tuned for that.

[02:34:37] But Happy New Year.

[02:34:39] So long, 2024.

[02:34:40] And hello, 2025.

[02:34:42] Foos Talk Live.

[02:34:44] Foosball tournaments are everywhere.

[02:34:47] Foos Talk Live proudly presents a weekly update of events near you.

[02:34:51] With the Foos Talk Live tournament beat, here's what's up.

[02:34:56] Happy New Year.

[02:34:57] Don't miss the Central New York Winter Main Event, January 3rd and 4th at the Hometown Studios, Cortland, New York.

[02:35:06] East Coast Foosball presents a Saturday Foosball tournament, January 5th at Merrimack Ten Pin, Merrimack, New Hampshire.

[02:35:14] Get set for the Bay Foos New Year's Foosball Doubleheader.

[02:35:17] January 11th at California Billiards, Fremont, California.

[02:35:22] It's the second annual North American Leonhardt Championship, January 17th through the 19th, Montreal, Canada.

[02:35:29] 518 Foosball presents the Wild Winter Smashdown.

[02:35:33] January 18th at Trick Shots Billiards and Wicked Eatery, Clifton Park, New York.

[02:35:39] The 2025 Arizona State Foosball Championships, January 24th through the 26th.

[02:35:46] Salt Fire Brewing Tap House, Tempe, Arizona.

[02:35:49] Introducing the World Foosball Tour.

[02:35:52] Make your plans to compete at the $30,000 World Foosball Tour kickoff, January 30th through February 2nd, 2025.

[02:36:00] At the Clarion Hotel, Lexington, Kentucky.

[02:36:04] It's the 2025 South Dakota State Championship, February 21st through the 23rd, Royal River Casino, Flandro, South Dakota.

[02:36:13] Take your vacation with the 2025 Costa Rica Summer Beach Tournament, March 13th through the 16th.

[02:36:20] At the Amapola Resort and Hotel, Jaco, Costa Rica.

[02:36:24] House of Tournaments presents Moneyball Northwest, March 13th through the 16th.

[02:36:30] At the Crowne Plaza in Portland, Oregon.

[02:36:32] The 2025 Wisconsin Foosball State Championship, March 20th through the 23rd, Mad Apple Billiards in Appleton, Wisconsin.

[02:36:41] The 2025 Hall of Fame Classic, April 9th through the 13th.

[02:36:45] At Westgate Las Vegas Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada.

[02:36:50] RK Foosball presents the 2025 Florida State Championships, May 1st through the 4th.

[02:36:56] Holiday in St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Florida.

[02:37:00] The 2025 Minnesota State Foosball Championships.

[02:37:04] May 2nd through the 5th.

[02:37:06] Wyndham Garden, Minneapolis, Minnesota.

[02:37:08] The ITSF presents the 2025 Tornado World Series and ITSF Gold Series Finals, May 23rd through May 26th.

[02:37:19] At the Westin-Dallas-Fort Worth Airport, Dallas, Texas.

[02:37:22] It's the 2025 Illinois State Championship, June 5th through the 8th.

[02:37:27] More details coming soon.

[02:37:30] Each week, we do our best to give you the most up-to-date listing of foosball tournaments near you.

[02:37:35] If you have an event you'd like to add, send us all the details at foosballradio at gmail.com.

[02:37:42] Tune in every week for the Foos Talk Live Tournament Beat.

[02:37:45] Happy New Year!

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[02:38:03] And thanks to InsideFoos.com for use of their audio during the show.

[02:38:07] Tune in again next week for another episode of Foos Talk Live.

[02:38:11] In the meantime...

[02:38:12] We'll see you foosin'.

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